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  1. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    I enjoy spending time here to help where possible. Sometimes it's anvils coming on my head from the peanut gallery and what not. It's all good.

    I do not expect to be around much longer in life anyhow. However... there is a opportunity that I may return to the big road in a semi provided certain medical work is a success.

    All things are possible.

    If I did, I'll be a Scottie uploading videos. he he.
     
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    I guess that's why the current president is so popular?
     
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    "There are other problems but we are working on them one by one. I myself would not be using pot for medicine. Its not my flavor. My vices lean elsewhere"

    I really enjoy your posts, but the last paragraph is confusing. Pot is a medicine, I agree 100%. CBD derived from pot treats epilepsy, chronic pain, nauseu from chemo, anxiety, etc without the high and side effects. But, you refer to it as a VICE. So which is it? What if a career OTR driver smokes or eats some weed during a week vacation in any number of states, then happens to get in an accident, and it happens to be one of the large carriers who are now on the HFT bandwagon. 3 months later, do they lose their job forever, get blackballed from the industry? Is that fair? MJ as a schedule 1 drug, cocaine as a schedule 2.. Your thoughts?
     
  5. x1Heavy

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    I don't know how to be plainer. There are three vectors here.

    First is that Federal Govt has MJ on schedule One. That is the same league as Angel Dust, PCP etc. as such this substance is not lawful for a Trucker to have on his or her system and still be qualified to drive. period.

    In order for it to be lawful in trucking the Federal Government will have to change the law and then change the scheduling of that medicine... er drug or whatever it is to schedule two or even legalize it by not assigning a schedule. That is the anchor of everything between MJ and conflicts associated with trucking and between the States that seek to legalize it in face of Federal Opposition.

    When I use the word vices, I refer to activities that are by nature not good for you. Or in some areas not legal. I was a drinker when I was younger. I managed to break that cycle of drinking because my CDL depended on it in the face of drug and alcohol testing that evolved after 1991. I finally changed my class A to CDL in the early 1994 as my deadline with the state or lose it entirely.

    Fortunately the trucks got better with better companies supplying airride among other wonderful luxuries. Prior to that I was running old iron that did not have anything but metal between you and the road. That is where the drinking came in on bad roads prior to 1991. I hate to say it in today's society it's really impossible for people alive today but not then to comprehend how I did some of the things like drinking and driving a semi of all things. It was a different time. Truckstops were Bars. Amesbury Mass is one example. (It burned mid 90's)

    When the states finally legalized (Especially our own, the first in the south no less) MJ, there was a discussion in the house hold between myself and my wife as to how we intend to vote. For medical purposes I had no problem with it. Again, I have tried pot long ago twice and it's not agree with me. I like other things. Spouse voted against it. So we canceled each other out. However. We did not realize at the time of voting the degree at which the State intended to allow such a law to infringe on someone's 2nd amendment rights to allow a certain medicine to be used. If I have a colt on the shelf and I take medicine for ow next to that thing, MJ should be just medicine. But the state had the oppertunity to do what they did with that law as it evolved after the people passed the vote. Because of that I cannot look at MJ as a medicine. TO have it means to give up something else I hold dear. Besides again referring to my early experience. MJ is not suitable for me personally. End of story.

    The third vector.

    We grew up in the 60's and 70's the MJ smoke among other things hang halfway to the floor in the home at times. That was my environment at times. As far as I am concerned I had my first drink, smoke cigs and what have you by the time I hit 8. it was a wild house. which led to other things ahead of my classmates. I was growing way too fast. (That came in handy later but we get around to that)

    Suddenly the so called just say no and the war on drugs etc imposed into the classrooms about the late middle school early high for me. It held no mystery or surprises other than the systematic flood of ... educating the kids from like Kindergarden of all things all the way up. I knew then we are living in a changing Nation. But just how far it evolved past what we considered our Freedoms and so forth now in the 2010's is way beyond the scope of this post. What you do at home is your business.

    As far as I am concerned trucking is 6 seconds from seeing that trailer get away and potentially kill you or someone or several someones. You have to have a mind, body, nerves and so forth that are quick, clean and accurate. Thus no MJ, drinking or any of that silly stuff when rolling on the wheel.

    The problem is off duty. You do what you want. But you cannot be impaired or DUI when running a semi truck. We know what to do in terms of waiting however many hours for so many drinks more or less to be legal to drive a truck. Hungover maybe but legal. We don't know what MJ will do to people or god only knows what else might be present such as Meth and what not.

    The problems we have today has been the result of systematic penetration by the drug cartels and those other countries overseas intent on flooding our Nation and it's people. Turning them into vegatables craving even more stuff and not working to run the Nation. Thus you could potentially as the enemy of America and everything we stand for over throw us using our sins against us without a costly war that will reduce that enemy nation to a parking lot.

    Trucking is one of the last things people can do out of high school without a college degree thankfully. Once that's gone or structured into robotics and what not without human drivings or the costs associated with people in payroll, benefits etc or the damage (Or even in spite of...) etc then that's it. What do you do with a unemployed nation flipping burgers or selling pot in dispensaries built for that purpose? What is there left to do? You tell me.

    By the same token the 4th vector is that people like me is a certain number of disabled workers the trucking has not been good to the body. It destroyed it over time requiring me to not be legal under DOT medical anymore. And the medicines I take is as of this Jan not lawful for driving a semi either. The Government has made sure to systematically erode or eliminate anything that a person might do to not hurt or even get high and still drive a semi or anything.

    Eventually coffee must be banned if this continues. Again to solve that problem in our Government from local township all the way to Federal Level requires a systematic reset which I don't think we are longer capable of doing.

    Something like this is too big to be contained in just a post. I have had to make a decision where I stand as a trucker and I decided that if you are going to run a Semi, you need to be at your best. In the best spirit of actually doing what I talk, in other words put your money where the mouth is.. Ive done just that for a very long time, no narcotics when I ended up falling off the truck and shipped to ER because I expect to drive again soon they patch me up that day. Now I rely on them to function. But it's two different things. I know I cannot drive a semi anymore and what a waste. OR... I rather have the attitude that Ive done my bit and now I am doing what I can to make sure that if anyone wants to have medicine for whatever within our laws, they have to change it at the federal level. Most people do not understand Parliamentary function of our Government. When I was in high school we went to the State House in Maryland, several hundred students enough to replicate the complete structure of state governance from Governor all the way down to Delegate of House. I was a Delegate myself. We had the Senate on the other end of the state house.

    As a delegate I argued for and introduced a bill, passing same and signed by our student governor into law a requirement that all hazmat trucks inside Maryland is to be treated with escorts same as heavy haul, over size etc. The motivation for that was the biannual crashing of gasoline tankers in Baltimore that happen regularly because the tanker man delivering to the gas station got sleepy and tired. Kaboom destroyed a interchange on say I-695 and 83 north. The one that did it for me and my bill to introduce was crashed on I-795 and State 140 where 4 houses were partially melted or burned by the cremating tanker. Enough was enough.

    As a side note prositution was legalized by the students. That particular bill was argued hard by both supporters and opponets and was a very favorite bill in the entire state house. There was a lot of table pounding that week. I think it took about 3 days and change in the house and senate and finally signed. My bill was such a minor one they passed it to move on to the good stuff like THE bill... everyone had a interest in it.

    Such is politics. You can stand up and say your mind in the face of a thousand people who may or may not agree with you. There was no internet back then. Nothing. That takes a little courage. But when the herd decided that Prositution will be legal and signed into law, you can only cast the vote for it or against it. It will pass anyway as you get run over by the herd. Follow me?

    I tell you this. Im glad that stupid little bill I made into law vs hazmat never became a reality, what a horrorshow that would have been. When I was a boy I played at trucking. When I stopped trucking, I was not only a Man but a professional one at that. I never did however allow myself to let go of what I called my bag of get it done. I get into it now and then as needed as a workaround to a problem when suited me.
     
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  6. Moose1958

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    You had to go and inject politics in it.

    [​IMG]
     
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    That guy cracks me up. What a dork
     
  8. Ridgeline

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    Moose, what are you talking about?

    Many of these labs have drug detection equipment, they don't use test strips.

    The one I use has Hitachi detection equipment exclusive, the old lab used a mix of Siemens and Hitachi.

    Where I used to work back in the 90's, they were all Hitachi, from large 747s to 1891 spectrometers for the tox lab.
     
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    Thanks, did not know about that feature, it worked! LOL! Moose is on ignore. Man that crap was beyond annoying.
     
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    tl:dr
     
  11. Moose1958

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    I'm talking about a conversation I had with a Labcorp Representative back in 2016 about how much money it actually cost to do the testing to satisfy the FMCSA rules. Their first test is a cheap test. Now if said person gave me bad information then my information put here is also bad. However no matter how the urine is tested the other parts of that post is accurate.
     
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