I need help backing up a spread axle :(

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by MockOverdrive, Jul 15, 2023.

  1. MockOverdrive

    MockOverdrive Bobtail Member

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    Hello, former tanker-yanker here, I'm starting a new flatbed job Monday July 17 and have been looking over everything and realized I am most likely going to struggle with spread-axle trailers. I have seen so many spread-axles struggle to backup at truck stops and am afraid I will struggle as well :(

    Are there any secrets to the process or words of wisdom that I should know in advance? I've heard horror stories that if you jack knife too hard, the trailer will literally rollover.

    Thanks in advance for any insight :cool:
     
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  3. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    Go make a right/left turn with one.
    It’ll back same way, as if you was in the door/spot going left/right.
    can’t jackknife back it or twist it tight as a tandem.

     
  4. INRUT

    INRUT Medium Load Member

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    You won’t be able to hit those tight spots easily any more. They back a little differently depending on how weight is distributed. You can jack them into spots, but it tears the tires up. Take your time, you’ll get used to them in no time.
     
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  5. Lilmissgearjamher

    Lilmissgearjamher Bobtail Member

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    I pull a 48 spread axle flat. A few tricks I've learned:
    -I always give myself extra room, more room than necessary when I'm backing up. That, alone, solves a lot of possible problems.
    -When 90 degree backing I've learned to start correcting early in comparison to non spread axles. Jacknifing a flatbed is easy when you're learning, but basically if you give yourself enough space for a few pull forwards you'll be fine. While you're learning maybe just avoid the tighter spots when possible and next thing you know you'll be doing it in your sleep. You got this!
     
  6. cabwrecker

    cabwrecker The clutch wrecker

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    Backing a spread vs tandem is kind of an art versus a science.

    It's just something you've got to get out there and do.
    Whichever axle is heavier is your turning axle, and you'll figure that out as you go- you'll notice as you're pulling out with a fresh load, which one is heavier as time goes on.
    The worst is when both axle's are 10k each, good the #### luck lol.

    One thing I loved about tanker- god that ##### would back where I wanted her to go. Back on flats with a skateboard? God it's a crap shot.

    Don't worry about it too much, I'd sooner you did twenty pull-ups rather than hit me. Or anyone else for that matter.
     
  7. Lilmissgearjamher

    Lilmissgearjamher Bobtail Member

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    And most of all don't be afraid to take your time. Just a few years ago I couldn't back up a spread for s#!+ . Spreads have a mind of their own. You'll definitely need to turn wider than with a tanker. After taking a few tight corners you'll definitely get an idea of how you'll need to back. I used to practice in empty parking lots . Again, you got this!
     
  8. MockOverdrive

    MockOverdrive Bobtail Member

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    That video really helped me to visualize the process, thanks!

    I forgot about tire wear, makes sense.

    Thanks for the encouraging words! I will give myself more room.

    Wow, i didn't know that they can change for pivoting depending on weight. Thanks for that insight!
     
  9. MockOverdrive

    MockOverdrive Bobtail Member

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    Speaking of corners, do you tend to watch the front spread tires or rear spread tires as you make a turn. Does it do weird things around curves running empty vs loaded?
     
  10. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    Why u backing up a flatbed? Flatbedders never need to backup! Lol

    There is some good advice in here... Just dont get in a hurry with it. It moves much slower then a tandem and doesnt pivot as tight because your axles are much further back... Definately watch the curbs when ur making turns.. And dont ever try to back with it at 90degrees .. You tear up the tires really quick and can even blow them out ... Get familiar with a 3 point turn... Its less abusive on the tires... But have the right mentality by asking questions. Practice is the only thing that helps you get better and understand it. At the end of the day dont over think it.. Its not rocket science.
     
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  11. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Are they 48 or 53’ trailers - and are they equipped with a dump valve for either axle?
     
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