I read all of this and now have a headache.

Discussion in 'CRST' started by celticwolf, Oct 10, 2010.

  1. celticwolf

    celticwolf Road Train Member

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    My son and I are going to start CRST's training next week (10/18) in Cedar Rapids. The plan is for us to team together. He already has his CDL, but has never driven OTR. I don't have my CDL, but I have driven a fair share of larger trucks. You would be surprised how much a Fire Tanker weighs fully loaded and how they handle.

    I am an ex IT professional who got tired of getting laid off every time the economy tanked. Plus there is a reason computer users are called users. They want more for less and are addicted and always blame you when THEY break their puter.

    I have read the horror stories about the "$0.11" cents a mile. If you look at the total mileage driven by the truck yep it's $0.11 cents a mile; however, I am not driving the total mileage of the truck. I am driving half of it, so we are back to the $0.22 a mile.

    I was in the Army for almost 8 years, and like anyone who was in the service knows that recruiters lie. Doesn't matter if they are in uniform or a suit and tie( or dress). They lie to get people in the door. No company is perfect; though, I know a couple that are really close.

    As an IT and EMS trainer I know there are good trainers and bad trainers. Again doesn't matter what profession you go into. High School (ya'll remember HS don't you) has good teachers and bad. Colleges have good instructors and bad. I have had my share of both.

    As for the Per Diem. OK let's break this down. They make 10 per mile tax FREE, but they charge you $0.2 to process it. Depending on your tax bracket and state you call home that $.02 is 10% of your PPM. Taxes on that $0.22 could range into the 39% range. 39% of $0.10 is $0.039 cents or a net savings of $0.019 per mile. Per Diem is a good thing..

    We cause people to act in a manner that justifies our expectations. Simply put if you think a person is a jerk you will treat that person in a way that will make him a jerk. Let's put ourselves in the shoes of that dispatcher. He has 60+ trucks all wanting the longest hauls and the shortest down time. He has X number of customers all wanting their loads delivered yesterday. He/she is going to be grumpy if you show them the least bit of ire.

    OK enough with the details on to my questions:

    If you have a bad trainer, will the company pair you with a new one or do you just need to grin and bare it? 28 days isn't all that long; though, it can be an eternity with a really bad trainer.

    Is the experience worth the lower pay for 8 months?

    If we don't go out spending like 2012 is a reality can we make money?

    If we treat the dispatchers with some level of respect (we will both have our hazmat endorsements and don't plan on refusing loads) can we expect them to treat us with some level of respect and give us the load we need to make money?

    All the literature and the web site says CRST utilizes late model Frieghtliners and Peterbuilts is this a lie? Are the tractors abused because of all the "students"?

    How is the required 34 hour down-time handled? Do we sit around a terminal for that time or are we allowed to get away?

    My last question doesn't seem to be covered in any of the literature. What does the CRST pay for while you are on duty besides the fuel? Are the drivers still paying tolls upfront where electronic payments can be made (i.e EzPass). If so, will they allow the driver to purchase their own EzPass.

    Please keep in mine my co-driver is my son. He has to get along with me HAHAH Though we would love to find a reliable third. So I won't ask about partners. I know mine better than he does.
     
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  3. thelastamericanhippy

    thelastamericanhippy Road Train Member

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    34 hour is not a requirement............

    Those per diem numbers, must be that new math...........
     
  4. celticwolf

    celticwolf Road Train Member

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    Not new math. I worked as a contract systems/network engineer for almost 30 years. Per Diem was a way of life for me. Though , I never had a company charge me to process it. What processing? They just tell the payroll system you made X dollars and to tax you on Y dollars. They charge $0.2 cents for that on extra step??

    If I want to reset the 70 hours it's required.. I was a Paramedic way to long to play games trying to make the numbers work to stay behind the wheel of 50+ tons.
     
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  5. Temptinfates

    Temptinfates Light Load Member

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    the seventy hours is not a dot requirement. If you are close to being out of hours, it may be the company requires you to do loads with the hours you have, meaning, whatever hours you gain back at midnight, and thus, not allowing you to get a 34hr restart. This can go on for some time. When you work for a company, a lot of things are not always your choice. This might be due to your fm, freight in the area, and other factors.
    Temptinfates
     
  6. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    I read all of this and now have a headache.
    Think you got a headache now? Just wait....:biggrin_2556:
     
  7. thelastamericanhippy

    thelastamericanhippy Road Train Member

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    I see why you have the headache..........
     
  8. SheepDog

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    It is a correct statement is stating that the 34 is not required,,you can use it, if you need to but don't have to..I once thought it was required as well. Now that being said,, as a team truck, you only have to do a 24hr restart and that is gravy,,since it really means 12hrs, its 24 per driver. If you just got done driving than you go to bunk for 12hrs and your partner has already been in the bunk for 12 hrs. So, truck sits for 12hrs than your partner starts his 12 hr shift and 12hrs later, 24hrs done, you start yours....see, not so bad...
    Hey question; is the per diem required at CRST? It is not for everyone.

    later and good luck
     
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  9. SheepDog

    SheepDog Road Train Member

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    Man, I made a big mistake....
    After I made the above post, I got to thinking about it and realized that I got it messed up. I haven't teamed in a while so please forgive me. The truck actually sits for 24hrs not 12hrs...that is a benefit of teams.
     
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  10. vinsanity

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    The equipment is Freightliners and Volvos. There are still some Peterbuilts but they are phasing those out. You won't get anything over three years old.

    You can ask for a new trainer if yours is bad. Same with FM.

    There are good FMs and bad. My first sucked. This one is really good.

    I like the per diem. It is mandatory after 6 months. You have to talk to management in person to get off it.

    The pay increases as you go. At 6 months you make .31. It makes a difference.

    At least you know your team mate. That is the worst thing about teams. You never know what you get.

    Forced dispatch. There is no refusing loads. My current co-driver doesn't have hazmat, which puts us at a disadvantage.

    I've been here 10 months. It has it's ups and downs, but I haven't had any real problems.
     
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  11. vinsanity

    vinsanity Road Train Member

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    Forgot about restarts. Mostly you try to do rolling restarts when you can. You do those wherever you are. To keep moving we try to keep our hours to 9.75 a day. Do that and you will never need a restart. Time is money and I don't like to sit if I don't have to.
     
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