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I was stopped by DOT other day in Ohio..... im curious

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48Packard said: ↑

Only time I’ve had a cop enter my cab was in Illinois, and he asked first. It was summertime and he figured checking my paperwork there without having to schlep it to his cruiser was easier. He was calm, considerate, and professional. I was the same. He thanked me and I told him to be safe out there.

No problems or violations.
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Wow you mean you were respectful to the man just doing his job and he responded in kind?? Too bad too many Billy big riggers don't get that concept and wanna Duke it out with the man on the side of road.....it never ends well...

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At the end of the day, the side of the road isn't the place to argue about all this. Don't give them permission to do things you think violate your rights, but don't try to obstruct them either. Just make note of what all happened and take it up in the courts, if you want. If they ask to search, tell them no, if they do it anyway, let them. You aren't going to win that fight on the side of the road.

There are 3 general types of officers. One that thinks he is making the road safer by doing his civic duty. One that is doing the inspection just to go though the motions so he can show his superiors that he's doing them (I know they will say there aren't quotas, but they are expected to do a certain number of inspections). And then you have the ones that got that job just so they "rule" over people and are on a huge ego trip. The one just going through the motions will give you the easiest time (if you are respectful), the one that thinks he's making the roads safer will write you a pile of tickets, if warranted, but won't have a attitude about it (again, if you treat him with respect), then you have the one with the ego trip, who will talk to and treat you like you're a piece of garbage, don't worry about being nice to this guy, but still treat him with respect, because he is the one that will inflict the most pain if provoked.

Most of the officers I've interacted with in a CMV have been respectful. It hasn't always been this way, but I think with years of public outcry the departments try to instill this in current officers. Last inspection I had was in the pouring down rain. I was stopped for a tail light out, and I offered to let the officer climb into the passenger seat to get in out of the rain while we talked. While he did write me a ticket and put me OOS, he did allow me to go the truck stop at the next exit to get a new tail light. I'm confident that if I had an attitude with him I would have sat right there on the side of the road and would have had to call roadside service to fix the light.
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He put you OOS for a tail light? Sorry, but that's a raging hard on move.

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Wow you mean you were respectful to the man just doing his job and he responded in kind?? Too bad too many Billy big riggers don't get that concept and wanna Duke it out with the man on the side of road.....it never ends well...
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In all my encounters with LEOs over the years, I've never been disrespected. Some were straight-laced, others more genial. But never a bad experience.

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He put you OOS for a tail light? Sorry, but that's a raging hard on move.
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It’s a OOS infraction, if he’s going to write it up it at least has to say OOS on the inspection report.
He didn’t fine me for it, just a warning. I don’t get all bent out of shape over written warnings like others do.

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Tail light out on a Trailer or bobtail Tractor is OOS criteria. Required lighting. Light out on Tractor, while hooked to a Trailer isn’t OOS criteria, but still a violation.

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I read this whole thread and didn't see the words "U S Marshals" anywhere.

The truck in the avatar was equipped with the famous kick out steps. they would extend 3 feet when the truck was parked, brakes on.
I had a wise ### Texas Highway patrol with a rookie trainee stop me on the side of I-10 outside of San Antonio at 10:30 on a Saturday night.
He and his trainee walked up to the drivers side.
I rolled down the window, showed him both hands and offered to follow him to the next exit ramp, which was only 1/2 mile down the road.
He instead yanked on the drivers door handle, opening the door, the steps deployed, which he was not expecting, and it literally forced him into the travel portion of the highway with cars traveling by at 70 mph.
He said "What the Fxxx is this" . I calmly made my offer to him to go to a safer location for the inspection.

He closed the door, they went back to the patrol car and screamed off....
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this made me laugh way to hard. I pictured this in my mind. LOL

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He pulled me over for no reason other than to do a level 3 which I understand that's his right. HOWEVER on the side of a very busy interstate interchange?!?! its unsafe and plain stupid! but what really made me mad is he came up to my truck tells me to open door and he comes in and sits on the passengers seat breaking my constitutional rights! I've lately been watching a lot of videos about being stopped and I realized I can tell the cop to literally F off and say whatever I want he may get mad but he can't do anything. my question is next time if cop asks me to open door or put window down further can I just refuse? and if he gets an attitude ill get an attitude my truck is 100% all the time I don't care he can't fail me lol. But could he contact my company and tell them I was rude? could I get fired for this? and if I get fired can I sue someone for breaking the 1st amendment? I know I know im a bit crazy can't wait to get home and audit some cops
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Rule number one never argue with the guy carrying the gun, rule number two always address him as sir , rule number 3 re-read rules 1 & 2.

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It’s a OOS infraction, if he’s going to write it up it at least has to say OOS on the inspection report.
He didn’t fine me for it, just a warning. I don’t get all bent out of shape over written warnings like other do.
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I've never heard that before. Seems extreme. I see so many trailers with at least one light out regularly too.

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Can you technically try and play lawyer? Of course you can. But I can tell you it almost never works out. Being meek, polite, and showing some basic human respect always wins out in the end. Police are humans, if you piss them off you’re gonna get a human reaction. There’s no reason to piss them off. You can win over the average officer just showing basic respect. No I don’t mean getting on the ground and licking their boot.
Now if he asked to sit in your truck and then he started rummaging through my bags and stuff, then I might ask to speak to a supervisor or something. Because that is breaking my constitutional rights and he has no right to dig through my personal belongings. But aside from that? I’d let him do his job and be in my way.

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