Icy road slide correction (turn into slide?)

I have grown to accept FWD in cars. But I prefer old time 4x4 or full time AWD.

In the auction house I have driven hundreds of performance cars with or without computer support (Traction on or off etc) some of the cars are seriously awesome. But I refuse to take them out into the snow. Sorry.

I go back to the older vehicles pre 1998 with hardly nothing on them other than a dab of emissions and fuel injection if necessary. Ive been considering dropping in a crate motor with just a carburator Holley set up dual pump on 750. toss the old emissions choked 350. I replaced two bad sensors near the converter this week. Im waiting to see if I still have a converter or not by the end of the month after the Fuel additives blow out the carbon inside my cylinders and valves, heads etc.

My pride and joy is old time posit lock live rear axle. AWD and FWD is again nice. But they do not have the balls as a live rear axle does.

 

The best winter driving advice I can give is drive really fast so your tires stay warm.

 

...so you prefer technology to compensate for your incompetence. Got it. Even back in high school learning to drive during the winter in Chicagoland in a little old 2wd Ford Ranger, handling was never an issue. Several years later and a few hundred miles south, the 1st winter with my 4x4 F250 we got 18" of snow right before Christmas. Most of the cars (few dozen) I pulled from the ditches were FWD. Maybe 1 RWD vehicle.

 

I prefer technology. It's a beast. But I fail to see how I'm incompetent just because my last rwd was 25 years ago.

I've managed just fine with fwd. Unlike you. I've never had 4wd. And the one time I need pulling. Was in my last rwd.

So what's more dangerous. Rwd or fwd.

 

Like I said, incompetent. FWD is more dangerous. Physics don't change. A tire only has a certain level of traction available to it. The more you ask that tire to do, the more likely it is to break traction. If all you're asking a tire to do is steer, and it spins freely with no resistance or driving force, it will hold the road. When you add resistance (as in you let up off the accelerator and the engine starts trying to slow the vehicle through the driveline) or driving force (step on the throttle), you increase the likelihood of those wheels breaking traction. If you're trying to go around a corner and your steer tires lose traction, you go straight...nose first, right into the ditch. You have no control over where your car is going until your front tires regain traction, which won't happen until they are 1) pointed where the vehicle IS heading (as opposed to where you WANT the vehicle to go) and 2) spinning the same speed as they would if they had no power or resistance going to them. In other words, you're along for the ride until you catch it, and then you're that much farther off course.

RWD breaks traction with the drive tires and it might step out. Keep the steers pointed where you want to go, and you'll continue travelling where you want to go. Ease pressure on the throttle and the rear comes back to you. Push harder, and it'll step out a little more. You can control a rear-drift scenario without much difficulty at all.

So yes, a front wheel drive vehicle IS more dangerous than a rear wheel drive vehicle, and you're still admittedly incompetent. Yes, a front wheel drive has more traction on the drive tires due to the weight of the engine, which makes it more likely to be able to move when the roads are bad. However, a rear wheel drive vehicle has that same weight over the front end, and the available traction on those tires isn't being used up trying to make it go. If you aren't moving, you can't put it in the ditch. If you ARE moving but can't steer, you more than likely WILL put it in the ditch. So yes, FWD is more dangerous than RWD.

 

I agree. You don't want your steer tires to spin on you, especially not exclusively.

It can't do two jobs at once very well.

 

Yeah. Sorry about your luck.

If rear was safer. It still be that way today.

Rears are much lighter then front.

Fronts serve the same purpose as rear tractors. Weight for traction. You don't put a light load on rear of trailer. Why would you stick with a light rear end wheeled drive.

Rwd is more dangerous. Again. You're thinking illogical.

Fwd with traction control. Because I don't need 4 wheels and I'm perfectly confident with the extra traction.

Technology trumps any day.

Fwd can do both traction and steer. And don't spin out like rwd. It has more weight.

Rear can put you in the ditch also.

 

"FWD"? 4-wheel drive, or front wheel drive. I think there is some confusion here.

 

FWD Fwd...

 

Fwd, 4wd, rwd.