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Identify this style of drums and axle hubs

Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by mile marker 27, Mar 20, 2023.

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  1. Mar 20, 2023 #1
    mile marker 27

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    This is a pic of my father in laws latest project. Truck is an ‘81 IH 4070B. He was wondering and I too, what style of axles, drums and hubs these are? We’ve got another 4070B but it has a different set up than this. 0A65B50F-7F1B-414F-82A0-F56CE86ECDD5.jpeg 56CB0D21-B17A-4EEE-B5A1-560ED96B39FA.jpeg
     
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  3. Mar 20, 2023 #2
    AModelCat

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    Looks like stud pilot hubs with inboard drums.
     
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  4. Mar 20, 2023 #3
    mile marker 27

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    Ok, is there an advantage or disadvantage? What’s the purpose?
     
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  5. Mar 20, 2023 #4
    BoxCarKidd

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    But the studs look to small for that. I bet it has inner and outer lugs ( Budd ). Very odd and I have never seen that.
     
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    Crude Truckin'

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    Makes it a pain in the ### to change brakes
     
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  8. Mar 20, 2023 #6
    Big Road Skateboard

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    If it has std bearings, swap it to hub pilot. cheaper and 10x easier to service.
     
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    BoxCarKidd

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    And they are left hand thread and short. No way they a hub piloted.
     
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  10. Mar 20, 2023 #8
    BoxCarKidd

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    Something usually goes wrong when I try something like that but it would be nice.
     
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  11. Mar 20, 2023 #9
    jamespmack

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    I've worked on alot of different things, with a good amount of old IH experiences. Never seen this. But I have a thought. 80's they built some trucks with disc brakes. Could this be the original disk, converted back to drum?

    Never seen one in person. Heard descriptions. Seen trailers converted back. Never seem the trucks in person.

    Idk, this is only my thoughts.
     
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  12. Mar 20, 2023 #10
    Big Road Skateboard

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    Yeah, may not be possible with that one, never seen one. I have swapped plenty of budd's and spoke hubs to hub pilot on trucks and trailers.
     
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