Idiot caller on Dave Nemo show

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Big John, Sep 28, 2011.

  1. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

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    That may be how you see it, but that's not how a company safety department sees it. A accident is a accident, no matter the dollar amount.

    Think about this for a minute... You may think that a scratch or a fender bender is no big deal, but picture it from the safety department's standpoint with a fleet of more than 4,000 trucks. Your average mainstream carrier spends more money on repairs from truck stop/restarea/customer accidents than any other accident combined. The first and last 5 miles cost the company more money than the rest of the trip.
     
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  3. 48Packard

    48Packard Ol' Two-stop Shag!

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    Technically, yes...both are accidents. But again, the degree of damage dictates whether it is CALLED an "accident" or an "incident". I know, as I've had one of each....one totalled $2500 (the threshhold of an "accident"), while the other was less than $200 (an "incident").

    We're talking about terminology for the sake of classification here, not the literal definition.
     
  4. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

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    I gotya. But it seems you're pinpointing at local traffic laws, which will vary. In the standpoint of a company safety department, a accident is a accident, even if it only cost one dollar to repair.

    Granted, not all companies view accidents and incidents the same, but the mainstream carriers do.
     
  5. 48Packard

    48Packard Ol' Two-stop Shag!

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    I work for a "mainstream" carrier (Schneider). I'm not speaking about any local traffic laws. I'm telling you the difference between what is classified as one and what is classified as the other.

    Call "incidents" a subset of "accidents", if you wish.
     
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  6. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

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    You hit the nail with that statement.

    Most people would assume a 'accident' means the total loss of a vehicle, but that's not what I mean. I don't refer to things as a 'incident' as I feel it's a improper term. I consider any damage to a vehicle or property to be a accident. Quite a few companies share my viewpoint, including the one I drive for (CRE).

    It's like I said, #### happens no matter how safe you are. You can't prevent everything, as you cant forecast the future. It's almost asinine to believe so, unless you're god's gift to driving and you have a halo surrounding your truck.
     
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  7. Tazz

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    So your stance is everybody receiving safe driving awards including those I see on CR England trucks boasting of Hundreds of thousands if not millions of mile are all frauds and liars:biggrin_2554: Of course they must be liars huh? Otherwise those with those accidents and incidents you keep bringing up screwed up. It is so much easier to believe all people screw up than admit your not as good at your career as others are at theirs.

    By the way being accident free is not luck, it is a skill set. It is the ability to assess a situation and know not to place yourself in that situation. It is knowing not only where the brake pedal is but knowing how and when to use it. It is not placing oneself in a no win situation where as you so eloquently put it crap happens.

    I know you've been told through your training you will screw up. It's that positive reinforcement England style.:biggrin_25523:
     
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  8. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    When I worked at WalMart, we had both "incident" and "accident" reports. Accident reports were taken when major damage or high level of injury occured. Whereas incident reports were for minor things. More of a CYA for the managers on duty in case something minor became major since fingerpointing and blaming others was standard operating procedures for most WM managers.
     
  9. blackw900

    blackw900 The Grandfather of Flatbed

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    Because we will not let you post nonsense without a rebuttal?


    An Impossible situation for sure....
    Unless you are the type of driver that is actually paying attention to the road in front of him.
    Are you saying that when you pulled into the customer that you didn't notice the impossible to miss pothole?
    Why didn't you hit it on the way in?
    Why didn't every other truck hit it hard enough to tear up their trucks?
    Maybe the road service company dug the pothole as a way of drumming up new business....Which in no more preposterous than the statement that you couldn't have avoided the "MONSTER POTHOLE" that everyone else seemed to have gotten past.
    Are you saying that the pothole somehow formed while you were there and that you therefore couldn't have known it was there?


    You always call BS when the facts point to you not being a very good driver.

    Of course I've had blowouts!, When I used to pull company trailers that had recaps on them.
    But a blown tire is just a blown tire....It is not an "Incident" or an "accident" it's just a blown tire.
    I have never worked for a scumbag bottom feeder like C.R. England that considers such non incidents to be "incidents"! Nor would I EVER consider doing so.

    Yes....But again because I don't work at a bottom feeder it was what it was, Not my fault and not my problem.
    It was paid for by the company that did the damage to my truck.

    Yes....But if a car hits you and you were doing nothing wrong, It is not an issue in the "real world" only in the "funhouse mirror" world of the bottom feeder company that is only interested in "blame the driver for everything".

    Uhhhhh......Yeah, Everybody hits tree branches, Again, It's not an issue in the "real world".

    Never hit a deer.....I've smashed a few dogs, cats, squirrels, skunks and other misc. creatures that are mere speedbumps on the trail of life.

    Yes.

    Yes.

    What?

    Only the ones that no one in their right mind would work at.

    How on earth do you even consider 'speeding" and "disregarding other traffic on the road" as something that would be included in "doing a good job and paying attention" by anyone?

    I get idiots on the radio complaining all the time that I am going to slow in construction zones because I go the speed limit or less dependidng on conditions...So what's your point?
    I'll lecture you as much as I want to on safety because I have 39 yeas and 4,000,000 plus miles of safe driving behind me and am in a position to be able to impart some wisdom to guys like you that can't go 6 months without tearing something up because...."#### happens!"

    So what? It was just a blown tire....Nobody cares about a blown tire.
     
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  10. Black_379

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    :biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559:

    Just when it seems you can't make yourself look any more ridiculous you somehow manage to do so. I'll give it to ya you are good at it. Unfortunately it seems you are not good at driving.
     
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  11. walleyemaster

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    Dale , a good man?? hes a blow heart!!! of course you also like the truckstop lunch counter talk also i bet?? Bozo is full pof crap..he always claims he know something was going to happen years before it did? besides what he hears from callers, hes got no clue what goes on in the trucking industry and i doubt he even cares....
     
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