That may be how you see it, but that's not how a company safety department sees it. A accident is a accident, no matter the dollar amount.
Think about this for a minute... You may think that a scratch or a fender bender is no big deal, but picture it from the safety department's standpoint with a fleet of more than 4,000 trucks. Your average mainstream carrier spends more money on repairs from truck stop/restarea/customer accidents than any other accident combined. The first and last 5 miles cost the company more money than the rest of the trip.
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Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Big John, Sep 28, 2011.
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We're talking about terminology for the sake of classification here, not the literal definition. -
Granted, not all companies view accidents and incidents the same, but the mainstream carriers do. -
I work for a "mainstream" carrier (Schneider). I'm not speaking about any local traffic laws. I'm telling you the difference between what is classified as one and what is classified as the other.
Call "incidents" a subset of "accidents", if you wish.THBatMan8 Thanks this. -
Most people would assume a 'accident' means the total loss of a vehicle, but that's not what I mean. I don't refer to things as a 'incident' as I feel it's a improper term. I consider any damage to a vehicle or property to be a accident. Quite a few companies share my viewpoint, including the one I drive for (CRE).
It's like I said, #### happens no matter how safe you are. You can't prevent everything, as you cant forecast the future. It's almost asinine to believe so, unless you're god's gift to driving and you have a halo surrounding your truck.Last edited: Oct 1, 2011
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Of course they must be liars huh? Otherwise those with those accidents and incidents you keep bringing up screwed up. It is so much easier to believe all people screw up than admit your not as good at your career as others are at theirs.
By the way being accident free is not luck, it is a skill set. It is the ability to assess a situation and know not to place yourself in that situation. It is knowing not only where the brake pedal is but knowing how and when to use it. It is not placing oneself in a no win situation where as you so eloquently put it crap happens.
I know you've been told through your training you will screw up. It's that positive reinforcement England style. -
When I worked at WalMart, we had both "incident" and "accident" reports. Accident reports were taken when major damage or high level of injury occured. Whereas incident reports were for minor things. More of a CYA for the managers on duty in case something minor became major since fingerpointing and blaming others was standard operating procedures for most WM managers.
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Because we will not let you post nonsense without a rebuttal?
Unless you are the type of driver that is actually paying attention to the road in front of him.
Are you saying that when you pulled into the customer that you didn't notice the impossible to miss pothole?
Why didn't you hit it on the way in?
Why didn't every other truck hit it hard enough to tear up their trucks?
Maybe the road service company dug the pothole as a way of drumming up new business....Which in no more preposterous than the statement that you couldn't have avoided the "MONSTER POTHOLE" that everyone else seemed to have gotten past.
Are you saying that the pothole somehow formed while you were there and that you therefore couldn't have known it was there?
Of course I've had blowouts!, When I used to pull company trailers that had recaps on them.
But a blown tire is just a blown tire....It is not an "Incident" or an "accident" it's just a blown tire.
I have never worked for a scumbag bottom feeder like C.R. England that considers such non incidents to be "incidents"! Nor would I EVER consider doing so.
It was paid for by the company that did the damage to my truck.
I'll lecture you as much as I want to on safety because I have 39 yeas and 4,000,000 plus miles of safe driving behind me and am in a position to be able to impart some wisdom to guys like you that can't go 6 months without tearing something up because...."#### happens!"
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Just when it seems you can't make yourself look any more ridiculous you somehow manage to do so. I'll give it to ya you are good at it. Unfortunately it seems you are not good at driving.d o g Thanks this. -
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