Idle up or not?

Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by BrownyMack, Mar 26, 2018.

  1. BrownyMack

    BrownyMack Bobtail Member

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    Hi new here! I had a general question hoping someone can help. Did a search but didn't find anything specific to what I'm looking for.

    Basic question is should I idle up at start up?

    Living in New England we've always warmed up our trucks especialy in the colder months. Some trucks I've driven have an auto-throttle increase when it's cold. The ones that don't we always tapped up the idle a few revs nothing crazy but above idle. Warms up engine and once warm I've been told to kick up the rpm to lubricate engine properly.

    So anyways been doing that for years and now a guy I'm working with says no don't idle it up when cold that hurts the engine to rev it when it's cold. Again I'm not talking crazy I'm talking a few hundred rpm.

    So just curious what everyone else thinks. Increase engine speed during idle or not? Thanks!
     
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  3. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Personally I think they should be idled for a couple of minutes when very cold to get some oil flowing. Then increase to 900-1200 for warm up.
     
  4. Goodysnap

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    With lighter weight engine oils and commonrail fuel systems offering more injection events and more complete combustion the need for long warm up periods are long gone. Pretty much get air pressure and go. Older engines will tend to need longer warm up periods.The fastest way to warm the engine is to work it, not idle. Idle bump if you feel the need or to get the windows cleared. Reving a cold engine is never a good idea, no matter the engine. Hot loaded- Idle a few minutes before shutdown too allow turbo/exhaust temps to fall a bit if working the engine hard before shutting down.
     
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  5. A5¢

    A5¢ Medium Load Member

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    Be nice to your engine and it will be nice to you. You don't have to warm it up until the snow slides off the hood, but when it's cold out, even multi viscosity oil moves like 2 a.m. truck stop coffee. Cast iron likes to warm up slow and cool down the same way.
     
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  6. BrownyMack

    BrownyMack Bobtail Member

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    Thank you all. I guess I'm also thinking about the trucks that automatically idle up at start up - Mack Vision as example idles up on its own at start up.
     
  7. swaan

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    My series 60 goes to 900 rpm as soon as I hit the key if it is cold out. It' is in the program nothing I can do about it.

    It comes down to 600 as it warms up .
     
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  8. Justrucking2

    Justrucking2 Road Train Member

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    If a newer EPA motor, leave it alone. Let her do her thing.
     
  9. KB3MMX

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    Idle it up. He is flat wrong.

    It's to increase cylinder heat..
     
  10. KB3MMX

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    Emissions motors also should idle up... Cold smoke causes all sorts of problems with emissions and you can reduce that by idling up.
     
  11. spsauerland

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    Personally, I always idle up to 900 RPM after 30 seconds of idle/oil circulation. With newer engines it is not really nessacary because they are actuating turbo/throttle valve/ or backpressure valve to load engine to get engine and after treatment up to temp so I they can start monitoring NOx emissions. It is all about emissions! I can't bear to watch or listen when someone fires up one and holds it to the floor.
     
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