Idling a 2020 Cascadia

Discussion in 'Freightliner Forum' started by DeadOnTime, Mar 8, 2019.

  1. DeadOnTime

    DeadOnTime Bobtail Member

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    Basically, there is no solid answer. Everyone has a different opinion on it.

    Freightliner said to idle at 800 to 900 RPM and it will do a regen every night when needed. That it will cause extra wear and an apu is the best option to avoid that wear.

    Now the question for me is willit be worth the initial investment, maintenance, and inevitable repairs on an APU for the four years I'll have the truck.
     
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  3. PAYTA

    PAYTA Bobtail Member

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    Hi guys.
    I have a similar problem.. I am driving 2019 cascadia. There is no optimized idle option and when I keep the engine running all night, it asks for Regen every morning.
    Is there any way of keeping the bunk cool?
    Please advice.

    Thank you
     
  4. 4vmach1

    4vmach1 Light Load Member

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    You can wipe out the SCR by idling too much. It's a brand new engine and the dealer will download the DDEC reports and see the truck has idled for too long and charge you to replace the SCR ($10,000 most likely total) with no warranty involved. Been there, done it, and as much as i want to lie to warranty to help out the customer, but Detroit does ask for the DDEC reports and a log file and those suckers get you for idling the truck for too long :(
     
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  5. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    There is a solid answer. Get an APU.

    I don't know why anyone would invest $180K in a truck, then say I can't afford the $12K APU.

    If you buy a used truck, get one with an apu, or get a REALLY good deal on it for when you do all the motor and aftertreatment work, and the apu you will add.

    You can always get a refurbished APU from TK.

    Know this - Every one of these trucks has a DOC. The "one box."

    It contains elements that make it air pollution free.

    Well, there's a finite, not infinite amount of stuff in there. When you idle, you're using it up.
     
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  6. DeadOnTime

    DeadOnTime Bobtail Member

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    I'm not buying, I'm leasing. I leased with a different company prior to this and the trucks all came with an apu. This company, however, does not offer an APU on their lease trucks, but will allow them to be installed by an approved shop at a slightly discounted rate.

    I couldn't, and still can't, afford to buy (and my credit isnt great) so leasing was my only option with this company. For those here that like to do so, I don't need a lecture on why not to lease.

    The current plan is to run this truck, sans apu, for 6 months to a year, work on my credit and save. Should save up a hefty down payment and have my credit in check enough to either get a new or used truck (not a Freightliner), or go through my credit union to do so.

    What I've learned: Trucking is expensive when a mega isn't running your show for you, and I'll take a steeper cost over a lack of freedom any day.
     
  7. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Freightliner is hands down the best money maker. Best mpg, and lowest cost of operation.

    I put people in used Freightliners that still have the factory warranty on them.

    They all have APU'S, and I wouldn't even consider a truck without one.

    They own the truck, make about $100K year.
     
  8. DeadOnTime

    DeadOnTime Bobtail Member

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    I've had two and they're both piles of crap. First one was in the shop for air leaks, brakes, a wheel seal, electrical, and transmission all in the 9 months I had it. It had 170 miles on it when I got it, and was in the shop for a wheel seal, electrical and transmission issues before 3k miles.

    The second is the one I'm in now, and it landed in the shop for electrical issues on the first trip. It had 430 miles on it when I got it and 1100 when it hit the shop. Turns out the turn signal was wired wrong, they also found several things wired incorrectly in the dash and fuse panel. This one also has a mystery air leak and none of the 12v in the bunk work for longer than a day before it blows a fuse. The door seals are also awful, so there is constant wind noise. Top that off with it riding horribly and I'll pass.

    Just had nothing but issues from two of them now and have a bad taste in my mouth over it. Only reason I have this one is it was either this or a 2017 that looked like a pack of greasy, wild cats was released in the cab.

    I know that no truck is problem free, but you'd figure a brand new truck wouldn't need shop attention for a while.

    My first truck was a Pete 579 and I loved it. Had hardly any issues with it over the 100k I put on it, and it already had 350k when I got it.
     
  9. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    I have a pack of wild and greasy cats in my Cascadia. And you can ask any of these guys, I'm not kidding.
     
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  10. DeadOnTime

    DeadOnTime Bobtail Member

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    Did you recently turn in a 2017 Cascadia? Lol
     
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  11. Snakeschasingcars

    Snakeschasingcars Heavy Load Member

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    Roll down the window. Use a fan.
     
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