If minimum wage goes up to 15 bucks an hour?

They want to not work more than they want to stop being poor. I suspect these are people who don't get motivated until they are actually physically hungry. Not sure why some of us humans seem to be trying to do the least amount of work possible- but defending them is a costly position politically and one the democrats should probably drop. They don't even vote. If you want to help them they need to be helped almost accidentally through programs that help those who are trying to help themselves.

Right now anyone who is poor is actively choosing poverty. There are unskilled warehouse jobs being advertised around my town for 17 bucks an hour on every street corner. They will hire very nearly anyone. Yeah they drug test but I've known people who have beaten those all kinds of ways. Lol listen to me telling truckers that some people fool drug tests.

 

I suspect that your imaginary powers of ESP are fail, and that many of the people you claim to know actually have psychological and / or psychiatric issues not of their own making, which they are not discussing with you.

 

All of this is true, but it doesn't change the fact that a huge part of the best case for Trump was that he wasn't beholden to the foreign policy arm of the federal government. Obviously that best case scenario isn't coming to pass.

There was no best case scenario for Clinton on foreign policy. She was always going to continue all of our foreign policy and take every opportunity to deepen our meddling pretty much everywhere.

 

I have plenty of psychological and psychiatric issues dude. You don't know me. Human beings have bad stuff happen to them. It's part of life. Some of them seem to be able to carry on no matter what and some seem to collapse if they get a sore throat.

I had a class 1 nightmare childhood. I wish I was kidding or making it up because then I wouldn't still be carrying the scars. The kinds of people who inflicted my childhood on me are the kinds of people who actively choose to remain poor. Some poor people are fine upstanding people who are poor through no fault of their own. Some poor people are poor because they are absolutely awful human beings who no one will tolerate for more than 20-30 minutes at a time. It's extremely silly to lump all poor people together and treat them all like victims when a great many of them are just ########. What you need is a way to separate one from the other.

If you give money to someone who is trying as hard as they can to stop being poor they usually stop being poor almost immediately. There were multiple times in my late teens-early 20's where 5,000 dollars would have completely changed my life. A more reliable car would have drastically improved my work attendance for instance. The Pell Grant made my getting a degree possible. I was poor, but I was trying my ### off to stop being poor. By comparison a lot of people I know who are still poor have been given by family and the government many hundreds of times more help than I got and will never get any better. Those people need rock bottom badly and society is enabling them.

 

The reason politicians do what they do is because they work for the people who pay them. And this problem recently got made even worse thru the opening up of huge new avenues to secretly dump big money into their pockets. And that big money is the exact same big money that tricks us into ignoring the problem and instead wasting our time blaming the ills of society on the poor.

 

Now be fair. Hillary outspent Trump drastically. If anything this last cycle was proof that money has limited value in national campaigns. There are only so many places to spend campaign cash, and that cash has to be spent intelligently to have any value (see Clinton, Hillary Rodham).

Agreed that there is way too much money in politics and politicians believe in that money far too much. The irony is that in marketing right now authenticity is massively in fashion. There's a reason why Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump did so well... It's because they were their own authentic selves. Bernie really is a crotchety old socialist and Donald really is a ######## artist who is bankrupt at least morally and spiritually if not financially (TBD). Which makes it the ideal time to launch money-lite integrity-heavy election strats. I'm hoping to see a bunch more of them in 2018 and 2020.

EDIT: A good % of the ills of society are inflicted by the really crappy poor people dude. Start with nearly all property crime and most of the violence and move on to all the neglected children who also have bad outcomes and you have a pretty sizeable problem looking for a solution. Pretending that there is no problem is pretty dumb. That good % probably isn't even 25% of our problems though lol. Obviously our bigger problems come from our foreign policy, our trade policy (where we seem to agree to letting other countries setup tariffs and restrictions on whatever they like and we let them ship as much as they want to us as long as it's cheap), and healthcare.

 

They might be narcissists. Narcissists love to trash people's lives, especially the lives of their own children. Both my parents were narcissists. That's how I became homeless.

 

The problem goes far beyond national campaigns. And it goes far beyond campaigns, for that matter. Lobbying is a very large and profitable business which never goes out of season.

 

and yes, that upward wage spiral can be in one way, in the form of ownership of his/her own trucking company.

can anyone lease a truck? certainly

can anyone buy a truck? most certainly indeed.

but can ALL that lease or buy, actually RUN that truck like a real business, and profit from it?

NO.

it does take education, and skills to work the books, work the business, and work the customers to his/her advantage.

 

We should be lifting our southern neighbors up to our standards, doing so will greatly increase national security. I disagree with you regarding military spending. Until our southern borders are secure we can not let security lapse. Granted other countries need to step up the amount of self defense they provide their interests vs. Our resources.