If you are a Heartland driver-PLEASE READ!

Discussion in 'Heartland' started by Wheat Light, Nov 5, 2008.

  1. ChromeDome

    ChromeDome Road Train Member

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    Not too many heartland drivers use this forum. I check this section anytime I get on. So no need to multi post. I will read it or one of the few others may eventually see it.
    What region are you in?
    I run OH regional, and we are all telling drivers that come in for orientation that live anywhere near the terminal to go regional not system. Due to better miles while still getting the home time on regional.
    That is just this region though. I do not know if the other regions are getting the same miles.
    I know freight is up all over the company. We are all hustling to keep up.
    We are a short to medium haul company though. As I have stressed in several posts.
    Most loads are only on you for a day. You will get loads over 1000 miles on a rare occasion. But many days you will run a short 100-300 mile load, then pick up another and get it towards the receiver before the day is done.
    Just how we run. The short mileage loads pay better per mile. So the company sticks mostly with them.
     
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  3. CkChris1973

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    Hey CromeDome, I live in Jackson so I am about 20 mins from the atlanta terminal. I assume I will do orientation there and run the SE reg. I did apply for that. Got to run, they need a couple of more things from me before they turn everything over to safety. Wish me luck. Chris
     
  4. Wheat Light

    Wheat Light Light Load Member

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    I'm not a Heartland driver anymore, but I was there for 9 months or so. I got an offer to be home more, so I took it. In hindsight, I wish I had stayed with Heartland for the 5 months I worked for the small company.

    I worked out of the Kingsport, TN regional. In the 9 months I was home 3 out of 4 weekends a month (only worked two weekends in one month and that was July of last year and it was my choice), averaged a little over 2100 miles a week, and was much more rested and comfortable than with the small company. I was home every weekend with them, but they didn't pay empty miles, only paid gross, and we ran like total outlaws. Very stressful. I had my problems with Heartland and some of their policies, but overall it worked pretty well for me (even though some on here swore I would go broke working for them, but oh well).

    In early February my family and I moved back to southern IL where I'm from. I'm now working in a factory, but if I felt like truck driving again I would look at Heartland. Out of the three large companies I worked for Heartland treated me the best.

    By the way Chris, I went to orientation in Atlanta. I lived in Knoxville at the time and the only bus going through Kingsport was leaving at 6 AM on Sunday, or I could go to ATL at like 2 PM. Said they didn't care where I went so I chose ATL. Out of the terminals I have been to, ATL was my least favorite.

    Chrome Dome I'm glad to see you're still doing well at Heartland. I know they have added some policies that they didn't have when I worked there so I can't answer anything about them.
     
  5. ChromeDome

    ChromeDome Road Train Member

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    I have allot of hope that they will start to reverse some of them soon.
    They need drivers bad, and we are pushing hard for them to fix things.
    They need 500 more drivers last I saw, and they are still loosing them as fast or faster than they can hire them.
    Allot of the old guys 15 year+ with them are leaving.
    Some are saying they are being starved out, but the company giving the longer runs to the lower paid newer guys.
    I don't know. I see some instances of that, but not like some are talking about.
    I think they may just be trying to get the guys that have dings on there safety records to go.
    I would be happy if they would just back off on the idle thing a little and pay practical miles. I don't have much of an idle issue, but in a month I may lol.
    And I like to get paid for all of my miles. Not see my paid miles 100-400 less at the end of the week than what I ran.
    This is typical at all companys, but when you are running short to med haul you see it more.
     
  6. Wheat Light

    Wheat Light Light Load Member

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    It would be good if they got rid of some of their policies and made things a little more driver-friendly. I didn't agree with all of them, but you learn to play by their rules and things work out.

    I have to say I never heard a word about idle from my dispatcher. I didn't idle between 40 and 75 or so (unless the sun was beating down and I was trying to catch a nap). For about two weeks that winter my truck never shut off unless I was on a scale or getting fuel. They ran me those two weeks up around Carlisle so it was cold, cold. Never heard a word. Also in the summer I was in Florida so I idled to stay cool and didn't hear anything. Now I always shut the truck off when I wasn't in it (unless it was under 20 degrees) so they didn't bother me much.

    I was in ATL terminal one time. It was like 55 degrees with a nice little breeze, no rain, etc. It was a perfect night for sleeping and several guys were idling their trucks. Security came around and knocked on doors (unless they were an o/o). I can see their point in that. There was no reason to be idling unless you had to have a C-Pap machine plugged in.

    I just got a letter from them yesterday wanting me to come back to work for them. I'm perfectly happy being home every night and spending my non-working hours in a truck. If I were to start driving again, Heartland would be my number one choice.
     
  7. ChromeDome

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    They are better than most of the other company's on this forum, I can give them that.
    I was at a small company for a year and they were great, but I really worked my butt off, and while they would not push me to run over hours, it was always an option.
    The guys that did made at least 1 more load a week than me many times.
    But I was ok with what I was making, and I was working 70 hours every week (in 5 days).

    Heartland does Regional very well. Many of the planners are very good. They will run you to your last 15 min if you let them. But they will normally not give you a load you cannot do. If they do you let them know and only accept it if they plan to set it up for a relay. (happens some when low on hours).
    They will get you as many miles as they can. But sometimes short loads with a little too much time happen. And all have to be covered.
    I had a few short mile weeks in a row, only took home about 500 a week. This week started slow but they got it going. I will have 2200 miles, and be home Saturday morning. So all is good. That will make like 7 weeks in a row or something.
     
  8. old-six-pack

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    sounds like he's about to piss himself:biggrin_25521:
     
  9. CkChris1973

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    Hey CromeDome,
    You was right I think. Heartland called me today and said I was approved and ready to come onboard, but she needs me to call her for about 30 mins to go over some kind of checklist. Whats that about?
    Then wants me to come to Atlanta tues night to get into motel and start orientation wed morning.
    I am glad they called, the other company that I was trying with would not hire me because The O/O I was running for was under a fleet blanket policy that covered all drivers who had a license and they said They needed to see a policy that listed me as a driver. My old boss tried to explain it to them but they just kept telling him it did not work like that I had to be on a policy, so RBX will not have me as a driver I guess. Anyway thanks for all the advice and help. Look foward to seeing out there somewhere.
    Chris
     
  10. ChromeDome

    ChromeDome Road Train Member

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    I have no idea on the check list. Cannot remember doing one.
    Probably making sure you have all the things with you that you need in the way of ID etc.
    Orientation is mostly just company policy BS, and such. Nothing extreme, and you should have a truck Friday afternoon and headed out with a load. If they have a truck there. I know allot came from Iowa last week for trucks in Columbus. But there should be some in Atlanta, if not in Chester VA.
    They will bring in a sheet with your offered pay on it in Orientation. If it is lower than what you were told by the recruiter then find out what part of your experience they need more info on, and what you need to supply to prove it.
    I would bring some proof anyway, just in case. They love to pull that, and once you sign the paper that is your pay.

    Also, if you have anything medical that is at all questionable make sure you have DR. releases etc. Or you will slow down the process.
     
    CkChris1973 Thanks this.
  11. Wheat Light

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    I didn't have a problem going through orientation in ATL. What my recruiter told me I'd get paid is what I got. My recruiter was a guy who is a mod on another forum that I met. He didn't give me any unreal BS about running 3500 miles a week and being home every weekend or anything like that. I feel he was very honest. The first 3 weeks or so at Heartland were my worse (Christmas and New Year being in those weeks), but after that we got on a pretty regular schedule of being home and averaging 2000 miles.

    Thought I'd share two good stories I had while there: First was Christmas. My oldest son was 1 1/2 at the time and my wife was pregnant with the youngest. I told my dispatcher to go ahead and run me through Christmas, I would get home the weekend after and maybe make a few more miles. Turns out about 95% of their drivers are home on Thanksgiving and Christmas both (even if they get home that morning sometime). They gave me a load from Windsor, VA to Kansas City, MO with more than enough time to go home spend a couple days and then head up. It was 150 miles OOR or so, but they didn't care. I didn't get paid for those miles, but I was home Christmas morning, spent a couple days, took off early Sunday and spent that night and part of the next morning at my parents in So IL (where I live now) and then delivered in KC Tuesday morning. I was really appreciative of that.

    Second story: I've heard guys on here say "don't give this company any notice when you quit" and I don't agree with that unless it's an extreme circumstance. I've always given at lease a few days notice if I could. When I got hired by the little company in Knoxville, I told my dispatcher on Monday that Friday would be my last day. I honestly didn't know if they would sit me all week or not (I actually thought they would). My dispatcher ran me 2750 paid miles that week and I was in Kingsport earlier than I told him I had to be. I thought that was good of them.

    Last story and I'm done (don't get me wrong, not all of my stories about Heartland are great, but most of the time we got along real well). I was going to IL to my parents to a big coon hunt we were having here. Told them two weeks or more in advance that I had to be in IL on Wednesday by 330, and I would leave around 8 or 9 Sunday morning for another load. I figured my miles wouldn't be good at all for that week since I was taking so much off. I got to IL around 430 TUESDAY NIGHT, with 1850 miles for the week. Then they backed it with a 2100 mile week starting Sunday afternoon around 5 when I left and I was home in TN by Friday night or early Saturday, I don't remember which.

    I'm not saying everyone has a positive experience with Heartland, but it worked good for me. I think Kingsport had the best dispatchers I have worked for, but can't speak for the other terminals. I'm not going to lay the blame for others bad times there at the drivers feet either. I'm sure some of the drivers who didn't make it were just complainers or whiners, but I think the majority of them just didn't fit right with the company or their dispatcher. For me, it was a good fit, and it sounds like it is for Chrome Dome as well. I knew several people who worked at HL for 10-15 years, with a couple drivers being there longer. While I was there one driver got his three million mile safe driving award. They had to be doing something right by him.

    Also, HL's turnover is around 60%. That's pretty dang good for an industry that has an average turnover of 125%, with some big companies getting close to 200% turnover every year. The small company I worked for in TN had a higher turnover than they do and they only had 10 trucks!

    Good luck to you Chris in ATL and let us know honestly how it goes. If you have a good experience some may try to attack you, but if you have a bad experience I won't attack you at all. It doesn't work for some drivers, but I hope it does for you.
     
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