If you HAD TO buy an emissions, pre-2013 truck, what would it be?

So maybe that's the loophole. A glider with a 2010 or newer engine that according to CARB from what I keep seeing and reading, doesnt need retrofitting or any sort of DPF or DEF system. I'll have to confirm!

 

All right, CARB has an updated regulation summary to make this 2010 engine and DPF stuff more clear:

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So yeah, no loophole, you need a DPF regardless of the engine year. They just ALSO want a 2010 engine or newer eventually

 

Yeah it is risky. I'd prefer not to but don't have a choice now since a couple of the old trucks broke down. I feel like buying at least one pre-emissions truck for now. I just don't see them being able to 1/Enforce fully and quickly 2/Actually collect the fines

But its a gov agency, though they are slow they will eventually get the power they need for their madness. One of my colleagues was doing some research and supposedly at some point they won't allow you to renew either your DMV registration or some other baloney. I'm not upgrading everything until they really have that much power. I'll have to post a thread to see if anyone knows of ppl actually getting fined.

 

Yeah we are basically not upgrading unless the old equipment goes out for good. And thanks, I read recently that retrofitting is a 50/50 gamble but it will be considered for one of our old day cabs which is running problem free. If the resale value on that thing is really low, we might gamble with a retrofit on it. It would help avoid a purchase of a $70-80k truck.

 

haha yeah, CA finally had more ppl going out and leaving than ppl settling in but it was mainly the housing crash and cost of living. I don't think I'll ever leave though. I like to do it all (hobbies, events, sports) and of course there's the weather. We are not going to upgrade everything unless the old equipment just flat out needs replacement or CARB really twists our arm.