If you have a HazMat Endorsement, read this! License renewal.

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  1. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

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    There is a potential trap for anyone that has a HazMat endorsement on your CDL if your state performs like TN and MI. Primarily it comes down to when your HazMat is nearing expiration. In some states, I'm not sure if it applies to all states, if you wish to let your HM expire you CANNOT JUST DO NOTHING, YOU MUST DO SOMETHING. Whether you want to end your HM endorsement TODAY or whether you want to just not get it again when you renew your CDL and other endorsements, YOU MUST WALK IN and exchange your current CDL for a replacement CDL without the HazMat. Failure to walk in to the driver license office and exchange your HazMat CDL for a non-HazMat CDL will cancel your CDL. Obviously, if you want to keep your HM endorsement, renew it. But, if you want to drop your HM you have to walk into your state's driver license office and exchange it for a CDL without the HM endorsement on it. Failure to do this will cause your CDL to be canceled.. Logic and Reasonableness are not the issue. Disagree all you want. It may sound very bizarre and stupid, I agree. Do it or your CDL may be canceled.

    Here is the thread over in the HazMat message board
     
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  3. Harry Flashman

    Harry Flashman Medium Load Member

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    In Texas, my license just has a “P” restriction that notifies when Hazmat portion becomes invalid.
     
  4. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    If you live in a state that gives a 5 year license this is important. If you renew your license a couple months early so can make sure your Hazmat doesn't lapse, your CDL will actually be good for that couple months plus the 5 years until your birthday.
    But your Hazmat endorsement is only good for exactly 5 years from the day it was issued and will expire before your CDL does. Best to find out from your state in advance to avoid problems.
     
  5. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

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    When TSA canceled my CDL over the HM endorsement they did so months before my HazMat expired. This issue does not seem to be a simple mismatch between the HM expiration and the CDL expiration.
     
  6. Kyle G.

    Kyle G. Road Train Member

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    Same here, except it’s a J restriction in my state (Iowa). Though out of curiosity I may just pop in to the local office anyway just to make sure, since my hazmat expired last July.
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    Also now I am curious, since I had the X endorsement, do I still have the tanker endorsement? :dontknow:
     
  7. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

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    I beg EVERYONE reading this thread to NOT JUST ASSUME this will not affect you because your HazMat date is on your license, you don't intend to use/renew your HazMat, or any other reason. I never got a letter from the state or TSA. I NEVER went beyond the expiration date of my then current HazMat, and certainly not my CDL. The TSA sent my employer a letter a couple of months BEFORE HazMat expiration date saying my CDL was kaput, BEFORE my HazMat expired, BEFORE by CDL expired. I ASSUMED if I completed all steps for renewal BEFORE either expiration date nothing could go wrong. My state of Tennessee, Michigan, and maybe all or some other states require you to either renew your HazMat so many days or months before your current one expires OR REPLACE YOUR CURRENT CDL WITH A NON-HM CDL by walking into your DL office and making a swap or it will be canceled. As I said, everything happened before any expiration date happened. THAT'S WHY IT WAS A BIG SURPRISE.

    If these conditions apply in your state, the drivers most at risk are the CDL drivers with HazMat now who plan to just let it expire and not renew it.
    DOING NOTHING COULD CAUSE YOUR LICENSE TO BE CANCELED. It sounds too stupid to be true. It is not. That's why I posted the link in the first message of this thread. It has happened to other drivers. If you assume you are not at risk, you are EXACTLY the one at risk for it happening to you. Call your driver license office.

    Hazmat Endorsement cancelled my CDL?
     
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  8. Kyle G.

    Kyle G. Road Train Member

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    I will definitely check on Monday and will report back. Might be nice if we can get a list going of what states are doing this.
     
  9. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    The most awesomest state sends you a letter saying your hazmat is about expire.

    They've also raised the base CDL to 8 years in between renewal.
     
  10. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

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    Yes you have both tanker and HazMat so they give the X endorsement. TN does the X = tanker & HazMat. If they yanked your HazMat or you gave it up they would replace the X with T for tanker.

    My CDL looks like your pic except my expiration dates are printed on the front of the card instead of the back, like your.
     
  11. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    My nephew lived there a few years ago. I think he said his car driving license was good for around 30 years.
     
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