Illinois "NOT A DESIGNATED TRUCK ROUTE" sign?? WT% DOES IT MEAN?

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  1. ichudov

    ichudov Heavy Load Member

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    20180728_103312.jpg I was driving my semi truck with an oversize load, no less, on Illinois-45 Mannheim Road.

    Suddenly a two mile section of this beautiful motorway, had a mysterious sign "NOT A DESIGNATED TRUCK ROUTE". Yet this road had other signs such as "trucks use the right lane". I just decided to drive along and ignore this sign.

    I spent an hour googling for meaning of this sign and did not find anything meaningful.

    While following this section of the road, a police car passed me and went on further on his business.

    What does this sign mean? Are trucks allowed or not allowed?
     
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  3. DTP

    DTP Road Train Member

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    It’s Chicagoland, it’s whatever the mood is on a given day. Welcome to northern IL corruption ;)
     
  4. Bean Jr.

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    I've taken it several times. I think it means "we would prefer you take a different route, oh well".
     
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  5. Kozaturf

    Kozaturf Bobtail Member

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    Fhis does happen around the Chicagoland area, roads go from truck route to no truck for a couple of miles and then back to truck route. No rhyme or reason to it.
     
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  6. ichudov

    ichudov Heavy Load Member

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    But what does it mean. It is not NO TRUCKS, but what is it?
     
  7. x1Heavy

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    I think overall, this means you need to take a break for yourself. Maybe you have had enough time in the hot sun outside waiting for the rains to arrive and cool things off a little bit.

    I am not a expert on heavy haul, oversize by any means. With that said there should be a routing in your papers that you need to take with a given load issued by the State (States plural if necessary) So that is the route you use. Anything that says otherwise is not for you.

    Several times a week we have a oversize come through on 64 which at the time was undergoing some construction. It comes out to a righteous transformer load of at least 100 if not 150 ton overall. There is a particular bridge it has to cross before it gets access to US 67 north, the driver does three things. First he stops short of that bridge regardless of traffic that now must flow around him. Second he shuffles papers evidently to find the bridge and the route to US 67 northbound etc. Third the local law usually sets up at the interchange beyond bridge to corral traffic so he can get onto the interstate without people interfering with him and really big and heavy load.

    It takes a little time to get it all organized before he moves off onto the freeway (Future I-57 as of about 2022 or so) north towards St Louis.

    If it's one thing I would have loved to see him do when he gets to St Louis is to cross over into Illinois. Some of those bridges are not that friendly to heavy trucks.

    Finally regarding signs. If anything I recall a certain bridge on what we called US 340 west of Harpers Ferry restricted against pretty much all and any loaded big truck for decades. Barn sized signs for 20 miles radius defended this bridge. But still a flood of big trucks including my own a time or two have gone across. They finally replaced that creaking old thing. Totally banned to trucks. But they still flowed across.

    There is a smaller sign in a particular company break room regarding that particular bridge. The State Governor had issued a order that if any trucker should "Drop" that bridge the estate of that driver who was on it when it fails (Or divided among drivers of 18 wheelers loaded plural) will be paying and buying a replacement bridge for generations.

    Now that series of smaller signs on what to me seems to be a major route proclaiming that it's not for trucks I don't even worry about it. IF Chicago or Illinois wants to write a ticket by all means they can run me down and write the thing if they have time between the killings and shootings they have downtown all the time which I think is a little bit more important of a problem than chasing truckers passing rusted signs that probably have been on there for decades.
     
  8. x1Heavy

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    That is a very good article. A fine robust example of local government screwups at attempting to communicate to me, a driver of a Class 8 80,000 pound vehicle not to be on that particular patch of pavement. There is no class II anywhere in trucks. In fact if you drilled down and tried to learn what Class II really is, it's a vehicle much smaller than my tahoe which is itself actually roughly a class 5 by gross weight and of itself approaches maximums that I may drive under a Class D license. (I stated approaches, not including trailer which can only be so big and so heavy itself)

    I was not around Illinois after 2001. So other than the confounded double nickel speed limits here and there I had no trouble with that state. I just know enough not to live up there.
     
  9. ichudov

    ichudov Heavy Load Member

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    I have a QUARTERLY permit, it is a blanket permit. This means that I can hop in my truck and go with any allowed oversize load, within limits, but I am responsible for my own routing.
     
  10. ichudov

    ichudov Heavy Load Member

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    OK, after more reading and thinking, Here's my best guess on what NOT A DESIGNATED TRUCK ROUTE sign meANS.

    It means that the combined length is limited to 65 feet. That's the difference between designated and nondesignated.

    Since I have a daycab truck, I am about 65 feet so I am legal.
     
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