I'm a stone cold rookie, gonna work the texas oil fields

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by paulcouto, Sep 7, 2011.

  1. JahB

    JahB Road Train Member

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    Yep. The school I'm going to is PTDI. Post Traumatic Driver Instruction.......
     
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  3. nicholas_jordan

    nicholas_jordan Medium Load Member

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    I guess we need to talk ..... I know for a fact that Oil Shale is paying good bucks for tanker drivers + I have been working on it for (plenty) and can tell you about all of the work is avoiding scammers and some other common stuff then finding the real companies,....that reduces to working http://www.usnpl.com/txnews.php newspapers and digging the classifieds -- if the "recruiters" were actually going to do that they would be shipping low-time drivers to those companies so it sounds to me like sales people are raking in $ from innocents like merciless leeches in late-night movie

    I am not concerned about OTR or O/O so much as I am in getting across that any business inclusive of an individual person reduces to the same errors and risks,....you have to dig and not take too big "chances" until know some area of operations really well....the most I will spend on the matter is $250 to rent a truck to drive the in-vehicle examination,....beware companies that suck thousands then run innocents into the ground

    if you have mechanical then I have a lot of actually running mechanical that I can explain to you easily:

    five times a second you totally re-evaluate your threat-field but dont get excited -- only the stone-cold reserve + time in type really builds skills
     
  4. JahB

    JahB Road Train Member

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    I'm only paying $320 for the school, because I am a previous graduate, or it would cost several thousand like it did the first time. The "tanker" company I'm talking about is a serious, large scale player in the industry, not a scam, and not a recruiter, it's the actual company web site. I'm calling the yard Monday for a reality check though. As for evaluating the threat field, and work ethic, I'm an ex-US NAvy Submariner with EOD training. I gotcha on that.

    Thanks, Nicholas.
     
  5. nicholas_jordan

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    I was speaking of the sales-reps for schools, not the actual companies even though lending their branding to sales is equivalent in my lower thoughts .... if you can get in the cab and rolling for no greater than even a little above what you say then it works on an accounting balance ~ the major factor is to work towards something like O/O or whatever inclusive of safety bonus so as to beef it up to 40+ k or something, I just saw one post by someone who is making twice what person made as a badge law-enforcement officer so even though I never believe numbers anymore seems to me twice the price and not get called to problem cases self-justifies
     
  6. paulcouto

    paulcouto Medium Load Member

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    still around but no internet, living in a travel trailer is sort of like living in a space shuttle, theres room but no room, hard to explain, but i really like it. my job was a disaster and i walked out after 2 weeks, i found another one but for a small private guy who is restarting back up, i wont be working nights any more. The guy is cool and i got a lot more control of the situation which is fine with me. If this doesnt work out, then i'm gonna go to odessa/midland and do wireline, no more water hauling. I love water hauling but this side of the trade is getting really screwed up, dot is cracking down on everyone......this whole government is cracking down on everyone unless youre a marxist liberal lame ###, then this government is hunky dory. Any way, i read a book called "kill the best gentiles", its fantastic and i dont think the world situation could be summed up any better.

    sorry i cant give details about whats been happening lately, my last job was pretty funny in a pathetic way lol. i cant wait to get back at it, i really like working, while waiting for this next guy, i was really tempted to do roustabout, just for the sake of working hard, but i got to make a definate choice and i dont think roustabout is it, it doesnt pay enough but its well rounded oil field work, you can learn alot.

    ok guys, see you later.
     
  7. Bigrussian

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    Hey paulcouto ! I am writing here for the first time. I am in Ozona working for Nabors. I have been already 3 months here and was trying to meet you in person but no luck. Have quite often driven to "allison swd" and talk to sonora guys but apparently non of them was you. I have red everything you posted end it really helped me out. I would really like to thank you for all the info and help. It made a big difference in my "life" situation. If you could email me at ericasia and at and the rest is hotmail dot com there is something else i would like to talk with you about. I had to put that email address this way because I was not allowed to do this the "normal" way. It looks like we might be having simmilar interest in "of the grid" sustainable living or shtf scenario. Even if i am wrong about it you can still email me and we could have beer or lunch sometimes possibly become friends and exchange "inside info" to help each other. From what i have red it looks like our situations are very simmilar. Thanks again and take care.
     
  8. runningman0661

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    Paul, if you come to Midland/ Odessa look me up....I can get you a job moving rigs. Great money, lots of hours, and easy work. We are always in your neck of the woods moving a ton of rigs in Big lake, and Barnhart. Be safe
     
  9. paulcouto

    paulcouto Medium Load Member

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    thanks gisquid for the heads up and yep runningman, you'll see me out there for sure if i can get hired on. I was supposed to start with a new guy re-opening his buisness but he hasnt got the ball rolling yet and ive put in 20 hours of oddball work for him and havent even got paid, told him he dont owe me nothing and i cant wait much longer, ive already wasted too much time and got dicked around with another company, i just want to get back at it.
     
  10. paulcouto

    paulcouto Medium Load Member

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    actually, i answered the man's questions in between his questions but it wouldnt submit unless i typed out some stuff underneath. Hell, i cant write no book now, i am really disapointed about falling out of nabors, i really wanted to be one of the few who stuck it out but once my hours got screwed with from little click conspiracies with dispatch, that crossed the line. I think nabors is ok, it just depends on where you work and who the hell is working there.

    from my limited experience, but still the horse's mouth, i'd be very careful about who you choose to work for and dont bank on relocation and sign on bonuses. If they offer it in a ad, then bring it up when you get hired. If you dont mention it, chances are they wont either.

    Let me give you an example of same company, different location. Texas energy ozona is a great company, texas energy big lake is a train wreck. I went with big lake because its a bigger fleet and they let you get over on hours way more because it based on ticket time. After being hired on, i slowly started to see the train wreck.

    I went out, ON MY VERY OWN, and mapped out location entrances on my gps. I asked for maps to certain leases and they didnt have any??????

    I get assigned a truck that supposedly nobody drives and that was bs. Nobody there knows what the hell is going on. I get assigned another truck but they dont have a trailer for it, i got to hunt one down. How the hell am i supposed to know which trailer is usable???? One of MANY managers tells me theres one in the corner of the yard, go ask a mechanic which one lol. The mechanic dont know, he just guesses and points to one. I hook it up, but theres no hoses, for the trailer or pump.

    Now i got to hunt that stuff down and ask a mechanic which truck i can steal hoses from. MIND YOU, THE CLOCK IS TICKING AWAY AND I'M NOT GETTING PAID. I have to rely on getting paid or make up the time lost with "ticket time".

    To make a long story short, by the time i got on the road, 3 hours went by. I went out to a location to pull from a dirty ### pit, the trailer wouldnt build more than 5 lbs vacuum. I wasnt sure at the time, i didnt know this truck and figured it was the crap i was pulling from the pit that was holding me up, it was a combination of both.

    After half way into the load, when i saw how crappy it was, i called dispatch and told them this pit was full of too much bs and told them it shouldnt be hauled to disposal, she asked if i was using a bucket and screen, i said 10/4, she said 10/4 and that was it for that lol.

    So, i took a half load to disposal and couldnt even unload this crap. I took the load back to the pit and just dumped it back in. One ####### driver told me i could pull some water from another pit to clean out my tank, i went to that pit but there was no way in hell to hook a hose up. I had my hose still hooked up to the trailer and i was on the lease road, i said screw it, i'm takin this hunk of junk back to the yard. I disconnected my hose and a gallon of black oily junk came out the hose and spilled on the lease road. The other driver pulls up and says screw it, nobody will know you did it, i said naw thats ok, i'll clean it up......like i ALWAYS DO.

    I spent the next half hour scooping caliche and dirt from the side of the road with my hands and eventually made the spill disapear.

    I got back to the yard, worked 10 hours and got paid for 5, they frown on you using non revenue time, i could have used it but i said screw it, i dont come back to the yard with excuses.

    So, i went to sleep about 4 am and woke up at 9 am and came in the yard. I cleaned out the truck and tray where the oil spilled, left a note for the manger about what repairs the truck needed and went back home for a few hours sleep for my next shift.

    I came in early at 4, which i was told was fine because they have "plenty of trucks" and they like guys who really burn it up. I get there and dispatch doesnt know if they got a truck for me?????? WTF??? thats dispatch, they should know which trucks are out, available etc......i got into an argument with a royal ##### there. She couldnt win the argument because it was obvious she wasnt doing her job and she knew it. I wont go into details but she got owned. She told me to come back at shift change 6:30 and so i went back home and tried to sleep for an hour but couldnt.

    I went back at shift change, waited for an hour, she then had the nerve to ask me if there was any trucks out there for me to use lol. I said nope and just walked out. That place sucked and its really hard to explain it all. I mean, i got some other ##### giving me fittings for the truck and telling me what i need and dont need lol. Theres so much bs to this ordeal and i said to myself i wasnt going to eat #### on my next job and i didnt. I dont get paid to sit around and i sure as hell am not going to chase trucks down and do somebody elses job and not get paid for my time.

    so anyway, be careful at what place you choose and dont be afraid to speak up or stand up to anyone there.
     
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  11. paulcouto

    paulcouto Medium Load Member

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    i'd say one great indicator if a place is good or not is take a look at their trucks and shop, if the trucks look beat up and the shop looks like a tornadoe ran through it, chances are the place sucks. Remember, when you haul water, you make your money by being out on the road, most places still pay if you break down, but if youre constantly breaking down or driving a questionable truck, it really blows and dont forget, you got dot on yur ### all over the place. I know for a fact that this place i just worked at, some driver got a fix it ticket/fine on a truck and the company didnt want to reinburse the guy for the ticket, 6 months later he got paid back from the company.

    so the moral to the story, be careful about which location you work at, i am probably painting a worse picture than the majority of companies that are out there, but hey, this was only the second place i worked for.

    ......and as the saying goes, i was looking for a job before i got there.

    good luck everyone
     
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