I'm in North Dakota and want to know the difference between using number one diesel

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  1. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    im over by parshal right now, weather forecast for tonight -6 with -15 windchill, ill be sleeping in my truck to night so it will be running all night i fueled up with number 2 and not in the least bit worried.
     
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  3. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    I have run number 2 when it was -38 and not worried.
     
  4. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    yeah i've seen the fail of the day iv even posted a few pics on there. lots of wrecks posted today with the weather were having
     
  5. fortycalglock

    fortycalglock Road Train Member

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    If you want to spend the cash, add the arctic fox's and an Espar Hydronic heater. It will heat the engine and fuel tanks allowing an easy start if you have the voltage.
     
  6. c.c.dawg

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    I always put anitigel in after -5, anything before that is a waste of time, also keeping fuel filters changed every oil change will eliminate some problems, but gelling fuel is gonna cost in the long run, I would ask the fuel provider or bulk plant there re ommemnded temperatures for each grade and what they would do, these guys are knowledgable.
     
  7. paul 1052

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    ....and I've gelled at highway speed at -28F with 250 gal #2/50 gal #1 on a fill then added 75 gal Canadian fuel at Saskatoon just to clog 2 pairs of filters and finally die before I got to Lloydminster...there was also 2 bottles of Howes in there.

    It doesn't pay to get ####y when its that cold.
     
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  8. Roadmedic

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    Not ####y. I got caught in the weather. I used to run up there many times and sometimes did add additive. In fact it was south of Saskatoon when I hit the bitter cold.

    I was running a bio mix in Illinois when it dropped to minus 26 and saw many of the trucks having issues.

    Just last year in Yellowknife, I went from 30 degrees to minus 22 before I got there. I had no additives and did not expect the temps in late April.
     
  9. paul 1052

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    Back to one of the OPs original questions I had good luck with the FPPF winter additives running from KC to Edmonton for 5 years the only time I ever gelled was using Howes.

    If you're mainly worried about it starting after you've been at home just treat the fuel to -25F and 99% of the time you'll be good to go.
    Are you working near a Loves?
    Loves at Fargo treats their fuel to -25 during the winter, if you can fill with that then throw a bottle of additive in each tank I don't see you having problems when you come back to work.
     
  10. 25(2)+2

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    I was taught, and read the manuals, and the big thing I try to do is keep the tanks topped off, not so much with the one I have now, but with former trucks and tractors of the farm variety.

    The anti-gel is a pour point enhancer, and most northern outlets supply at least some winterized fuel, I'm not sure they all do. Kwik Trip (Kwik Star in Iowa either sells just the winterized or a choice between regular and winterized. TA is selling winterized, and I think PFJ is adding it, too.

    The blends available at some outlets will be up to 70% No.1 and 30 % regular No.2 which is said to be good to minus 35 F, but the anti-gells do about the same at usually less cost, but no sense in adding them to fuel already treated, IMO.

    I never used a drop of it last winter, just fueled carefully from places selling winterized or premium fuel.
     
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  11. Roadmedic

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    Flying J in Fargo, before the remodel, had signs up saying that the #2 was treated to the local climate.
     
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