I am a small company owner with 4 trucks and 12 trailers. I do not and will not have electronic logs. If they ever make them required which I know they will eventually, I will need to figure something else out or some kind of loop hole. With that being said I have a number of o/o that work for me as well as my company drivers. One of the o/o was asking me last week about companies that hire o/o which do not require electronic logs? I didn't have an answer for him. Are most companies requiring these money killing things? Why do companies care about your logs if you have your own rights, pay your own tolls/fuel, maintenance, and every other wonderful expense that comes with running your own equipment? I'm kinda old school that way I guess, If I hire an o/o I pay him for the run and they do it. How ever they do it is up to them as long as customer is happy I'm happy. I know companies like Conway have required electronic logs for a while now, but are other companies doing the same? Curious...
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Info on electronic logs?
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Largecar359, Oct 5, 2013.
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Many companies. Including small ones and even single truck O/O's are going electronic. For many reasons. Less paperwork. Less hassle. More compliant and easier to keep those scores low. I wouldn't be too concerned with e-logs. You can run a 4,000 mile week easily, and work off that back 8 days with ease as well. I know most old hands are still not thrilled with the idea, but when they get them, they don't ever want to look back.
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By the way, a small flatbed company in NJ has them. MRM. Might have heard of them. 11 trucks, 48 states, elogs. Works out well to stay compliant and trucks on time.
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elogs aren't bad. I do run them currently but at end of year I will no longer run elogs. however once again this goes back to things like obamacare. why should the Feds be allowed to mandate it. I have no problems with it if somebody chooses to run it. unfortunately everybody is jumping on the band wagon. yes its a lot easier and less paperwork but it also restricts you. there are a lot of companies that require it even for o/o and even some that don't are now requiring you to run ecm motors in the event that it does get mandated. there are a few companies though left that don't care or you can just go get your own authority and be independent.
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I understand what your saying. But the type of work that we do simply does not allow it. I know why e-logs are a great benefit for large companies. And to be honest they are absolutely needed to protect the driver against companies that will run a poor guy to death then when they're done with him they run the next guy to death. I was just asking about companies that don't require the e-logs so I could pass the info on. Side note: if your in Bethlehem your not to far from where I live. Just over the river. Be safe out there.
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for flatbeds pgt, besl transfer, mercer, tryon, maybe daily(not sure on them). I know those 3 for sure don't. pgt requires it for their company trucks and anybody doing lease purchase but if you own truck outright they don't. its getting harder and harder to find companies that don't.
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They're not required yet. Here's an article with some interesting comments too. http://www.overdriveonline.com/electronic-log-rule-on-the-horizon-says-fmcsa-admin/
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The problem with e-logs is that a potential 750 mile day could turn into a 650 mile day real quickly. Traffic jam, and then the last truck stop for 40 miles, and you can't be quite sure that you're going to make it 40 miles before you run out of hours, so you have to stop 40 minutes early. With paper logs, you can stretch a good 10-15 minutes and be get away with it, and even log traffic jams as off duty, and get away with it all 99.9999999999% of the time. With e-logs, there is absolutely no flexibility.
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My opinion and mine only, but I believe that good drivers, experienced drivers will flourish under electronic logs. BoyWander is right, it does take away the flexibility. But, those drivers who trip plan, and don't need to stop at every truck stop they see do exceptionally well on them. That's why I believe they seperate the drivers from the steering wheel holders.
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