Insane trainer at Pride

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  1. Cavril

    Cavril Bobtail Member

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    I Have to say that as a whole Pride was a decent company. However as a new Driver you are put with a trainer for 3 months in a team capacity. This could be a wonderful learning experience given you are paired with a decent trainer. In my case I was not, this guy was a complete sociopath. He constantly played with his cell phone while driving and would become extremely angry at other drivers he saw do the same. He was extremely over weight yet took every opportunity to disparrage others he saw with physical limitations. He was constantly making racist remarks , especially about hispanics ( He Is Hispanic ), whatever.
    He felt perfectly safe sleeping while I drove and snored the entire time even with his machine. Yet as soon as he would wake he would begin screaming at me for being a horrible driver...screaming and physically shaking. Five minutes later his personality would shift and he would behave decently for a while. He told me during one of his lucid periods that several students had thrown him under the bus with management for his behavior( I was shocked). He had a very hard time keeping straight me and his past students and what had been taught to whom. Almost daily he would scream at me for not remembering an area that I had never driven yet he swore we had been to 5 times. His behavior became more extreme and unacceptable the longer we drove together. I tried very hard to cut him some slack as I could tell there was some seriously big emotional and phsycological problems going on. In the end I had to leave the company as I could not reconcile the fact that he seemed to be beloved by upper managemnt( he has been there over 20 years), and they seemed disinterested in finding another trainer for me. He is out there right now yelling at some poor waitress or cussing out a fuel stop attendant for having to stand for more than3 minutes in line. He is drinking his NyQuil nightly and watching movies while he drives down the road. Too bad guys like hime ruin the job for us new guys.
     
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  3. RizenPhoenix

    RizenPhoenix Road Train Member

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    Welcome to OTR trucking. The problem is trainers aren't picked because of their ability to train. They are picked because they are either hard runners or yes men who never complain. I've also worked in the transit industry and can tell you that a driver spends about 160 hours driving a bus in a variety of environments with several different trainers before they even take their drive test with the DMV. I think we need to start funneling some of the money away from collegiate education(which lately seems to only qualify you to be a barista at Star bucks) and to public vocational education. The government money now paid as grants to training companies would probably be better put to use in that way too.

    Just to head this off at the pass. This was a private non-union for profit contractor. Not a municipal transit.
     
  4. Cavril

    Cavril Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the reply and information it is much appreciated RizenPhoenix! For the record, I have worked in several other professions and have had to deal bad trainers before. While It is true that this guy was a hard runner and also did not complain much(to management) ,He was very unsafe on the road and I fear he will end up Killing or injuring someone either while driving or having an episode. My issue is not with A guy being difficult or demanding it is with a company that knowingly allows this person to represent them out on the road. I honestly do not believe if they saw video of him they would retain him as an employee.
     
  5. ZEBOV

    ZEBOV Light Load Member

    You couldn't record a video of him?
     
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  6. Cavril

    Cavril Bobtail Member

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    I have about 1.5 hours of footage and 30 minutes of audio. Not sure what at this point I will do with them. Thanks for asking. Never had the opportunity to share with company as when I met in person with them I had not reviewed what was there on the video and audio.
     
  7. ZEBOV

    ZEBOV Light Load Member

    Review it and show them whatever is worth showing.
     
  8. RizenPhoenix

    RizenPhoenix Road Train Member

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    Email Jay England, he will email you back.
     
  9. Florida Playboy

    Florida Playboy Road Train Member

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    Post it on here PLEASE!!!!:happy1:
     
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  10. ZEBOV

    ZEBOV Light Load Member

    ^What he said!
     
  11. Semi-Truculent Hamish

    Semi-Truculent Hamish Bobtail Member

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    Glad to see it's not just me got a bad draw on a trainer, Cavril. I got 2 weeks with mine, but, it was in a slow period and we missed 4 days altogether, and several half days where we didn't get a second order, (regional driver). All told, about one weeks worth of driving, then I was to shadow him for a week. The experience fell somewhere short of awful! I was shown very little; when the situation called for backing up, (Super-B), he'd take the wheel saying that I'd take to long & just Freddie, Uncle Charlie, Kate it up. My protests to this, and almost every other question/situation I raised were responded to by the simple statement, "Some things you gotta learn the hard way"!

    We almost came to blows over driving in freeway/city traffic; he was the most aggressive driver I've seen, and insisted that I tail gate and keep so close to the next vehicle that nothing else could cut in. In either seat he was in a constant state of road rage. I finally told him that I wasn't judging how he chose to drive, but I certainly wasn't going to drive in any similar fashion. This sort of put a chill on any sense of professional comraderie we might have developed.

    The chilliest moment was when we were delivering a load and were told that there'd be a three hr. wait to u/l. He told me to head downtown as he had errands to pursue. I told him that if he wanted to go down town, he could take the driver's seat as I had no reason to go there. He got in a huff, but took the wheel and headed up a busy avenue. He decided to park in a small lot behind a hotel; this called for a sharp left turn, followed immediately by a narrow right turn, cut three feet into an embankment. Well, there was too much speed, and not nearly enough room! The driver's side steer and drives went up over the embankment, followed by two fully loaded bins. When stopped there was a continuous sound of escaping air; driver thought he'd got a flat. No. Broke the drain #### off the wet tank.

    He then looked at me and said, "You can explain this easily; you noticed that you were losing air and had to come off the highway to find a safe place to park." I looked at the ruts up the embankment and over the concrete parking barrier, and said, "No, I don't think I'll be explaining this; I wasn't driving!" Maintenance arrived and quickly remedied the situation. I never heard of any explanation being called for, nor heard of any recriminations.

    I told him I wanted to shadow some other driver, as I'd never keep up to him and couldn't see any satisfactory outcome to our Trainer/Trainee time together. He almost cried as he apologized for being such an ####### in our time together. He said that he'd change and make sure we were together in shadowing. I gave it a try, and it worked ...for one delivery. the second one he offloaded, then, instead of waiting for me to offload, said, "You know where we're going next, when you're done head out and watch for me at TS's along the route. After that I went to my safety officer and requested another trainer; all I said was I felt that my training time was being wasted as we didn't have similar driving styles. Got a new trainer for one day, (supposed to be longer, but things got in the way), a great guy who showed me more in one day of shadowing than I'd learned in the previous two weeks!

    I'm solo now, and it's much easier to breathe in my cab.
     
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