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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by PharmPhail, Jan 26, 2009.

  1. PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    Checked in with my new best friend this morning. There's a pretty good list of things wrong with the truck of things due or very due beyond the previously stated.

    The hose and exhaust of course, needs both the mount and bellhousing which both have to be ordered from Rockford, IL, $380 (looking at Wednesday) and the tow was $475, a bit more than expected. Front brakes overdue, some of the rear ones getting bad and out of adjustment, belts weathered and cracking, the fairings are coming off behind the steps (will remove), asked me about A/C, didn't think it was working due to the condition of the compressor/clutch.. that had me worried, it blows really cold! Probably going to need replacing sometime soon.


    Says the hose looked for the most part inside like most other trucks of that age, still not overconcerned about the oil residue in there, thinks the radiator was seriously overdue for a flush and it was probably present from another compressor problem or past issue. I think of course that is probably hopeful, probably no way to know exactly for sure without some serious diagnostics. He'll flush it with soap if I heard him correctly.

    My thoughts on failure to come...
     
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  3. lv gn

    lv gn Heavy Load Member

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    rob, just to save on the cost and get moving again, you can do the brake adjustment and replace the belts your self. this is not hard at all. and you need to learn this stuff! save the old belts! if it brakes while on a run, you can replace it on the side of the road and keep going. instead of a $500.00 road service and how ever many hours waiting. and maybe the front brakes can wait a week or 2 untill you recover from this repair.
     
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  4. sweezly1

    sweezly1 Medium Load Member

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    you can never have too many spare parts. we carry so many spare parts with us , i swear my old man has a regular parts department somewhere in this truck.
     
  5. PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    Yes I'm going down there probably tuesday morning to help out and learn as much as I can, probably spend the night since I've been invited. I'm going to soak up as much as I can in that couple of days.
     
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  6. walleye

    walleye Road Train Member

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    How much do yous want to bet on that????,....................I never owned one when I was running my carhauler,....I had access to one and a 40 by 40 shop to do my work in,.....But I have never owned a grease gun,.LOL.....
     
  7. PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    So when you do finally hit a low, it's good to take a look at things and see what you can learn from them. I tend to be analytical to a fault, but I think it's a good thing if applied properly.

    These guys who come on here and start trolling or flame wars, well they're really mean. However not completely wrong either.

    Basically at this point I lose all bragging rights. I'm humiliated, somewhat beaten, but also humbled and thankful for the good friends and kindness that this trucking community possesses.

    I started officially back in April. As far as I'm concerned realistically it took me less than 6 months to fail. Now there are catastrophic business-ending failures, mini-failures, lots of varieties I suppose, but it was enough that I needed to draw on others outside of myself to be blessed with a reset or restart. From the standpoint that I started out with a reasonable amount of money, worked my tail end off for 5 months and now have less than I started with, I don't know how else to judge it other than a slow but steady failure.

    Further compounding the issue are the behind the scenes financials and other unresolved symptoms. For instance, even when things have been "good", meaning money flow was ok, I still have not cut myself a proper paycheck, paid social security or any taxes. I don't see really where that would have come from, and I'm not sure how serious an issue it is quite yet. For now it's not a disaster because I can claim a loss for a couple years I suppose. After that it is going to have to improve considerably to get that on track. Also no health insurance and proper things like that that one would use as a measuring stick for whether a business can be called successful or not. On these levels I continue to fail, and may do so for a further considerable amount of time.

    The good news is that many of the problems outside of cheap freight and availabilty is that there has been a lot of room for savings along the way, the sheer amount of problems I have caused myself in the learning curve, generally taking on too much and the risk associated with that, and the crazy amount of truck work that I have to outsource without really being able to afford it.

    I think over the next 6 months I can make strides in those areas, really learn some things about the truck, stop making mistakes that cause damage to the truck, not putting off small repairs until they are larger ones. Other things that will happen is my insurance should go down a bit next year, the following year my truck will be paid off (God willing), and some other signs for optimism.

    But the summary is that I tried and failed inside 6 months. The takeaway point is for new and old readers of the thread, the newbs, the prospective O/O's, anyone thinking of getting into this business, that you need to know realistically what you are looking at and just the plain insane amount of luck that plays into successes and failures even if you believe you can manage it well. The largest lesson, especially for people like HKP2, BCTINC, if these are in fact different people, is that you cannot be smug, disprespectful, or otherwise discount the real need for the best of this trucking community because you will someday need someone, a friend, a series of friends all over these United States because you never know when and where it's going to happen.

    In the end, it is not entirely money and management that will keep your business afloat, but the relationships you make, the friends you keep, and the type of karma you deserve. When fate says things should be one way, it is your last line of defense... a helping hand that allows you to yell that you are not going quietly into that good night, you will survive, and you're messing with the wrong people!!! :biggrin_25520:
     
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  8. Tankergirl80

    Tankergirl80 GangstaGirl

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    Shut Up Rob!!!!


    Are you walking away now? I don't think so by reading your post. The war is not lost if you live to fight another day. You cannot call yourself a failure til the end and this isn't the end is it? If you do walk away this experience still can't not be called a failure. Think about who you are now and who you were 6mths ago. You've learned more about yourself and what you're capable of. You haven't failed. You've done A LOT of fricking up, for sure. Look at where you came from, though. You knew nothing and frick ups are to be expected. Look at every Swift and JB truck. They are all dinged and banged and beaten up, and their drivers have had professional training.
    It's all relative my friend. Stop calling yourself a failure and get down to that shop and learn everything you can. You only fail when you give up.

    As for the HonKongFloosy's of this forum, don't you see it? It is jealously but not the kind you think. (hate to break it to you, I don't think he wants to see your hopper bottom) They are jealous of the people you have in your life and on this forum. They had hard times before and nobody offered out help and hope to them and it eats them up that we do for you. They just don't realize that if all you put out into the world is negative that's all you get back.
     
  9. scooter823

    scooter823 Bobtail Member

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    PP the way I see it, you only fail at something when you stop trying, and I don't consider you or MM a failure. Just learn from your mistakes and keep trucking, now get out there and bust ##### driva. Peace Scooter
     
  10. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    For what it is worth, I am very appreciative that you have posted the wins & losses that you have, even when you know the troll sorts will be there to pounce. The overwhelming aspect has been those who have been there to help & everyone can learn a little bit more from the exchange.

    As far as failure goes, I get down about the market, futures, expenses in addition to the other hassles a truck brings to the table. HOWEVER, I also think about my aunt who worked for a large insurance co. for over 20 years only to have mgmt come get her one morning, escort her to the office, lay her off/fire/dispose of because she is in her 60's & they can get somebody younger for less money to fill her position. They did not even let her go clean out her desk, just straight out the front door & that is how they have treated about 40-50 others they have let go since June in that office.

    The point, I bet you, like many would rather fail miserably 100 times over looking for a way to make things work, than constantly wonder if mgmt. has found a way to replace your livelihood.
     
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  11. 7mouths2feed

    7mouths2feed "Family Man"

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    Now that your mindset is in a different place I am going to list a basic set of tools that you MUST invest in. I am posting it here for all your friends to be able to comment and add to as sen fit not to put you out..

    This is not an advertisement. I have made alot of money with these "cheap" tools and have found them to be more than adequate for basic tools.

    I've listed numbers prices and item from Harbor freight. Hopefully this will not get edited as an advertisement.

    44718 21.99 11pc long combo wrench
    551 24.99 16pc short combo wrench
    32041 12.99 8pc offset wrench
    36778 5.99 filter wrench
    66688 6.99 pipe wrench
    4178 39.99 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 socket set
    3994 59.99 3/4 socket set
    37391 8.99 3/8 breaker bar
    30395 12.99 1/2 breaker bar
    38082 14.99 6pc plier set
    91684 12.99 3pc vise grips
    1847 5.99 screwdriver set
    91238 9.99 1/4, 3/8 torx bit set

    238.87+tax



    tool box
    piece of pipe 1 1/2" diam. 4 ft long
    good quality ratchets 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 your choice craftsman, snap-on, the ones sold at lowes or home depot. the ones in the kits above are garbage but the sockets aren't bad at all.

    I can't begin to say how much I hate that it came to this for you to realize what I and others have been trying to say about learning to work on the basics of your truck yourself. I'm just glad that it wasn't even more damage that could have been prevented. Partner:biggrin_255::biggrin_25525:
     
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