inTRAstate hauling

Sublime · May 5, 2013

MNdriver said: ↑

Minnesota does not have "intrastate" authority per se. If all you do is haul exempt material, you only need a DOT number. If you only haul in state, you can get a "Y" plate for your vehicle. It's NOT apportioned like a regular plate is.
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MNDot has been here a couple days. He very kindly pointed out we needed to have intrastate authority to haul some of the loads we've been hauling once in awhile.

MNdriver · May 5, 2013

Sublime said: ↑

MNDot has been here a couple days. He very kindly pointed out we needed to have intrastate authority to haul some of the loads we've been hauling once in awhile.
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Show me where you apply for that on the mndot website.....

There is this on it.

https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/statutes/?id=221.031
New Intrastate USDOT Number Requirement
As of Aug. 1, 2011, there will be a new requirement for intrastate carriers to display their USDOT number. Assigned USDOT numbers MUST be displayed as required by MN Statute 221.031, subd. 6.

[h=2]Subd. 6.Vehicle identification rule.[/h] The following carriers shall comply with section 168.185 and with the requirements for marking commercial motor vehicles in Code of Federal Regulations, title 49, section 390.21, which is incorporated by reference:
(1) motor carriers, regardless of the weight of the vehicle, except that this requirement does not apply to a limousine as defined in section168.002, subdivision 15, that is equipped with "LM" license plates;
(2) interstate and intrastate private carriers operating vehicles with a gross vehicle weight of more than 10,000 pounds; and
(3) vehicles providing transportation described in section 221.025 with a gross vehicle weight of more than 10,000 pounds except those providing transportation described in section 221.025, clauses (1), (3), and (4).
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[h=1]168.185 USDOT NUMBERS.[/h](a) Except as provided in paragraph (d), an owner of a truck or truck-tractor having a gross vehicle weight of more than 10,000 pounds, as defined in section 169.011, subdivision 32, shall report to the commissioner at the time of registration its USDOT carrier number. A person subject to this paragraph who does not have a USDOT number shall apply for the number at the time of registration by completing a form MCS-150 Motor Carrier Identification Report, issued by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, or comparable document as determined by the commissioner. The commissioner shall not assign a USDOT carrier number to a vehicle owner who is not subject to this paragraph.
(b) Assigned USDOT numbers must be displayed as required by section 221.031, subdivision 6. The vehicle owner shall notify the commissioner if there is a change to the owner's USDOT number.
(c) If an owner fails to report or apply for a USDOT number, the commissioner shall suspend the owner's registration.
(d) This section does not apply to (1) a farm truck that is not used in interstate commerce, (2) a vehicle that is not used in intrastate commerce or interstate commerce, or (3) a vehicle that is owned and used solely in the transaction of official business by the federal government, the state, or any political subdivision.
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So where does that leave you in MN? To set up a prorate account and apply for your vehicle plate, you need to have a DOT number. Minnesota is going to get themselves into a pickle with state law when the feds stop issuing ONLY DOT numbers.

I don't consider that "intrastate" authority though. Just registration. If a company or O/O were to come into the state and are registered, they are more than legal to operate in MN hauling only intrastate loads. No other filings are needed.

RedForeman · May 5, 2013

MNdriver said: ↑

Show me where you apply for that on the mndot website.....
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http://www.dot.state.mn.us/cvo/prop_online_app.html

Without digging too deeply or looking up any fees (personally not interested in having MN authority) it looks like a similar setup as Missouri. You probably first must be registered as a foreign corp with the MN SOS, then apply for carrier authority.

Seems a lot of confusion on this topic. The OP seems to be a non-MN based carrier looking to move loads within MN. My frame of reference when I browsed the MNDOT site is as a Georgia domiciled carrier seeking intrastate authority in Minnesota.

Don't know about MN, but a MN domiciled carrier may automatically get intrastate authority when granted interstate authority. At least Georgia does this for us. Supports the homeboys in an attempt to keep revenue in-state and subject to more taxes.

snowwy · May 5, 2013

non based MN carrier, yes. looking to move loads inside MN. don't know.

i do have a letter with a MN dot number. I also have GA, CO, IL, TX, KS, OR, SC, WA, WY, MT.

from what i'm seeing so far. the good hauling frieght is usually the short hauls. and out here in the west. the states are bigger and number fewer then the east. but they also deliver in the sticks.

out on the east. a short haul could be had across 2 states easily. where on the west. your still in the same state. it takes 3 eastern states basically to equal the square miles of one western state.

most of the freight i've seen to get you into another state. don't pay for the fuel. let alone make a profit. with the exception of maybe california. and an occasional seattle.

KANSAS TRANSIT · May 5, 2013

snowwy said: ↑

non based MN carrier, yes. looking to move loads inside MN. don't know.

i do have a letter with a MN dot number. I also have GA, CO, IL, TX, KS, OR, SC, WA, WY, MT.

from what i'm seeing so far. the good hauling frieght is usually the short hauls. and out here in the west. the states are bigger and number fewer then the east. but they also deliver in the sticks.

out on the east. a short haul could be had across 2 states easily. where on the west. your still in the same state. it takes 3 eastern states basically to equal the square miles of one western state.

most of the freight i've seen to get you into another state. don't pay for the fuel. let alone make a profit. with the exception of maybe california. and an occasional seattle.
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Hell, in the NE you can get in 7 states before lunchtime!!!

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