Is an owner operator responsible to pay for damages to company trailer?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by angelou, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. RedForeman

    RedForeman Momentum Conservationist

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    It will go well as long as you retain control of the discussion, leave no loose ends (be prepared with any needed paperwork, property inventory, and whatnot), and make it brief. Don't waffle or second guess yourself, and be prepared for a sad story about hungry children or a sick wife or a foreclosure that will tug at your heart. Be real clear - you've made your decision and it's final.

    When you feel yourself getting weak, just think about the mess you still have to clean up and the future trouble you won't be having, and that will bring your memory back quick LOL.

    And don't keep your new fan club here waiting too long to hear how it worked out!

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  3. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    OK, you posted while I was typing. If he will not sign-off, pay him and see if you can file in small claims court to recover.
    BTW, looked at several O/O agreements that I have been collecting and it is clearly spelled out that each party is responsible for damage to the equipment they own. Not sure how common this is but at most I have ever heard someone coming after an O/O for is the deductable on the insurance policy.
     
  4. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    That is the way of all of the contracts I have signed. I have NEVER seen one or would have expected to see where someone would sign a contract that stated all damages.
     
  5. I_HATE_MINIVANS

    I_HATE_MINIVANS Heavy Load Member

    I second that motion :biggrin_2559:
     
  6. angelou

    angelou Bobtail Member

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    Well we were advised to ask him sign off on what we owe him. My sister in law is an attorney so I talked to her about it. If he won't, well then we will be screwed but we have to at least try. He is acting very sorry for what has happened and I'm sure he doesn't want to lose his job but we just can't afford to keep him that's for sure. He is still saying that he is going to pay for the damages so we're hoping that he stays true to that and does the right thing. We have helped him so much in the past to help him make a good life for himself and his family I just hope he remembers that tomorrow when we meet with him.
     
  7. angelou

    angelou Bobtail Member

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    That is our plan B. I don't even know if I will be able to file a claim with our insurance if he won't even tell us what in the heck happened or where and when. I mean I don't even know what state he was in. I have an idea but I don't know because of anything he has told me. But if he won't sign off on his pay then we will have to at least try and file a claim to get it fixed. I can handle the deductible but 4-5 thousand I cannot.
     
  8. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    Just checked my email and this was from my insurance guy: "...It is the responsibility of the party that is required to maintain financial responsibility has the property adequately insured. In the agreement that I have been reviewing with your attorney if an O/O damages a trailer and it can be documented that it was "extreme negligence" or "repeated negligence" then they would be responsible for the deductable or damages up to the deductable. Repeated would be based on your policies. Best example is curbing. First time you would pay for the damage and notify the driver that your policy is that repeated negligence accidents will be charged to the driver.
    "Extreme" is difficult to prove and the best way to recover the deductable on this is to have a police report or insurance report. And example would be that the report says it would take speeds in excess of 30 MPH to cause this damage. Mechanic reports will not cut it.
    Expecting the driver to pay for damages beyond the deductable could get you into trouble. You would have the control over filling a claim or not. But it would be easy to say that because you had the driver cover the whole repair that you didn't file an insurance claim. ..."
     
  9. BigJohn54

    BigJohn54 Gone, but NEVER forgotten

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    I think the most valuable part of this thread is what we should have all learned. Make sure we have a lease that covers everything. Regardless of whether we are the company or the truck owner, know what our options are under the agreement.

    Also, I am a firm believer in second chances but that is the limit.

    And finally, JMHO, no matter the situation an honest equitable solution between two parties is always better than involving an attorney if not necessary.

    The DOT inspection incident is without excuse and should be dealt with accordingly.
     
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  10. crzyjarmans

    crzyjarmans Road Train Member

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    This is just my opinion, depending on sercumstances, was it avoidable, was it just driver not paying attention, is this an ongoing problem with the same driver?, was the problem mentioned in a timely fassion?,did you disscuss this with OO when hiring, that any damage that he causes do to his own fault would be his responcablity?, pending what happened would be ether i paid or the OO, If i cant prove OO problem but was in ongoing issue, Id just let go and have to eat the repair
     
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