Is doing overhauls the same as a new? In that case, is it not cheaper?

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  1. Migueljs16

    Migueljs16 Bobtail Member

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    My friend wants to buy a 2003 (pre emission) freightliner with a N14 plus, 10 speed, Wetliner, Triaxle, it has 37k original miles, and was barely because the company went under shortly after.

    The dealer is selling it for 65k, which with those miles, you're practically getting a new truck (hypothetically at least) then I found out that an overhaul cost around 15k, another 9k for the transmission, 5k for turbo and 7k more for the rears... comes out to 36k, buying a truck with high miles for 25k, and having those overhauls done, it STILL comes out cheaper...

    So I was wondering, when an overhaul is done, are you pretty much getting a clean slate on the engine and other units that were rebuilt?
     
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  3. carrkool

    carrkool Heavy Load Member

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    yes when you do a inframe you put new sleeves pistons rods mains crack is turned or replaced cam is speced and replaced if need. head is tested and rebuilt new vavles vavle springs injectors tested and replaced if needed. front gears are checked and replaced. pretty much every internal part is checked and replaced. on the tranny all gears syco and all are replaced same with the rears all new gears pinion the works. so yea its dang near new
     
  4. Gambi80

    Gambi80 Medium Load Member

    The transmission and turbo prices are WAY high.
     
  5. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    No, you do not get a clean state with the engine after an overhaul. There are many parts that do not get touched with an overhaul. Even the word, "Overhaul" is a variable term. You can overhaul an engine 50 different ways. A basic overhaul is just installing new liners and pistons, but put the old head and turbo back on. An expensive overhaul is a reman head, reman injectors, pistons, liners, full bearings, turbo, water pump and so on. Some of parts that never get touched during an overhaul, especially with a N14, is cam shaft and cam bearings, front and rear main seals, engine sensors, wiring harness, oil coolers, oil pumps, Jake Brake housings and so on. If you want a true clean slate with a full top to bottom engine warranty, replacement is the only way to go. That is the only way to be sure everything has been renewed.
     
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  6. Ruthless

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    Also that's considering that the truck you are rebuilding has all good wiring throughout no rust or other insidious problems present and has plenty of life left before those problems rear their heads :/ if the rest of the truck is good its worthwhile. Junk won't get better with a rebuilt motor.
     
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  7. rickybobby

    rickybobby Road Train Member

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    How much will that cost?
     
  8. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    That is hard to answer without looking at the truck and having another conversation with the customer. While the engine is out, this is an excellent time for new motor mounts, clutch, exhaust and so on. Prices can vary to by location. It always pays to call around. I have a rule here, I don't give time quotes.
     
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  9. Hdhaulers

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    A big thing to consider also is with higher miles on the whole truck, you have to account for things like suspension wear, like U-Joints and rears, and even interior features like the seats, and switches. When it comes down to it, lower miles typically beat a rebuild in my opinion
     
  10. SemperFiServices

    SemperFiServices Medium Load Member

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    I just bought a 96 IH 9600 for $3500 with 957k on the clock. I dumped another $3500 into repairs, and ran her 1300 miles this past weekend. It ran good, the tranny sucks, and it rattles and you feel every crack in the road, BUT I sitll only have $7000 into a good running truck. But if I could afford it, I'd love a newer conventional.
     
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