Is it just me or are young adults under the age of 25 just plain lazy?

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  1. Elroythekid

    Elroythekid Road Train Member

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    I didnt say it was the kids that got lazy, it's their parents instilling that in them. Make them work for their allowance, at 14 they can have part time jobs, a day a week teaches them work ethic and responsibility.
    Be part of the solution, not the problem.
     
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  3. Elroythekid

    Elroythekid Road Train Member

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    I'm sure the laws where you are, pretty much mirror these. There is ALWAYS a way to teach responsibility.
    Employment of Children
    The Labour Standards Code has rules about when children may be employed in Nova Scotia. The laws about the employment of children do not apply to people who are 16 years and over.

    The law generally divides children into two groups: those under 14 and those under 16.


    Children Under 14
    It is against the law to pay wages to a child under the age of 14 to do work that:

    • is likely to be unwholesome or harmful to the child's health or normal development
    • is likely to keep the child out of school or make it hard for the child to learn at school
    It is against the law to employ a child under 14 to do work:

    • for more than 8 hours a day
    • for more than 3 hours on a school day unless a certificate has been issued under the Education Act to allow the child to work
    • for any time during the day when that time plus the time the child is in school adds up to more than 8 hours
    • between the hours of 10 pm of any day and 6 am of the next day


    Children Under 16
    The Labour Standards Code says that no one is to employ a child under the age of 16 in certain types of work, such as:

    • mining
    • manufacturing
    • construction
    • forestry
    • work in garages and automobile service stations
    • work in hotels
    • work in billiard rooms, pool rooms, bowling alleys or theatres


    Children Working in Restaurants
    Employers may employ children aged 14 and 15 to work in restaurants provided they make sure these employees:

    • are not operating cooking equipment
    • are provided with safety training on all equipment and
    • are provided with adequate supervision
    AND....
    If our kids never spend time working at a real job, how will they ever understand what it means to succeed at work someday when they graduate from college or graduate school with all of their hard-earned degrees? They still need to have some basic life skills that can only be learned in the field, such as:

    • Time management
    • Self-discipline
    • Follow company rules
    • Take on and understand responsibilities
    • Learn to collaborate with a diverse group of people
    • Creative problem-solving
    • Conflict resolution
    • Respect colleagues at all levels
    • Overcome challenges and failures
    • Able to deal with difficult clients and co-workers
    • Accept criticism
    Working part-time while going to school also helps teens grow in so many ways. First, jobs help teens experience something new, expanding their perspective beyond school and home by interacting with different people, learning new information, hearing stories from co-workers and customers, and seeing how the world operates outside of their comfort zone.

    Next, they mature more quickly and are able to take on more responsibility. They learn about responsibility such as not being able to check Instagram and Snapchat because they need to focus on a cash register, stocking shelves, or helping customers.

    Jobs also teach teens how to manage money. Teens who earn their own money have more of an appreciation of its value and tend to be more responsible with their purchases.

    Teens can also get a self-esteem boost from working, as they achieve goals and get rewarded for their hard work. This will also make them begin to feel more independent and self-reliant.

    Finally, one of the most important benefits of a teen job is that it teaches them how to multi-task and manage their time. It is critical for all individuals’ life-long health and happiness to know how to find balance in their lives. By managing homework, extra-curricular activities, social and family commitments, and a job, teens will learn how to do this with success.

    What parents can do
    A huge part of this teen job problem is us – or potentially us in a few years if you have young kids now. Parents are not letting their kids grow up. Instead, we're coddling them because of guilt, fear, and other issues we're holding onto. This is hurting a whole generation of kids who are staying kids for way too long. It’s really up to us to shift the story by taking the following actions once you have a teenager in the house:

    Start slow. Help your teen figure out a small job that she can do during the summer at first. If she attends camp, see if she can start as a camp counselor-in-training. Or maybe she can attend an educational program for half of the summer and do some babysitting during the rest of the break.

    Help your teen learn how to find a job. Without doing all the work for him, guide him on how to write a resume, how to email local companies about part-time jobs, how to network with friends and neighbors about opportunities, etc.

    I have a neighbor whose son is particularly successful at math, so he created a flyer highlighting his tutoring services and placed them in mailboxes around our community. He landed one great client and was thrilled to make some extra money while helping a younger child at his school excel in math.

    Identify what they love. As they get older and have more experiences, work with them to find out what their strengths and passions are so they can find a job that they will be excited about.

    Prepare your teen for job interviews. Get books out of the library, watch interview tips videos, and do mock interviews with her to help her prepare.

    Teach them professionalism. Talk to them about professional issues, such as appropriate dress, how to interact with bosses and co-workers, reporting to work on time, cell phone use, etc.

    Be a listener. Always be available to your child by providing encouragement and to be a sounding board in case he faces difficult or challenging situations at his job.
     
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  4. Milkman386

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    This country is in the mess its in because millenials becoming old enough to vote. There is a reason #### started going downhill as more and more millenials started hitting voting age. The "woke" and "gimmie" culture is the result.

    The boomers left us a great amount of ecomomic momentum and the millenials, because they didnt want to WORK to keep it moving have dropped the ball.
     
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  5. TripleSix

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    I have a little sister that’s 50, a sister that’s 41, little brother that’s 39, half brother that’s 29, and a half brother that’s 22.

    Older sister has a son that was never allowed to do chores, especially dish washing because “he might hurt himself.” He’d only do it once. Stupid hurts. That’s how we learn.
    When he started middle school, his mom felt compelled to buy him some name brand sneakers so he wouldn’t get bullied. She asked me for a donation and I told her that all he has to do is hit one person in the mouth and no one will ever pick on him for life. I told her a decade ago that she was raising her son to be worthless. Now he is 17, failing school because he plays video games until 5-6am. Full on neckbeard, complete with neckbeard nest in his room. Now, he’s popping off at her and she wants to send him to live with his father.

    My 22 yr old half brother is the same way. He did graduate school, but his mom won’t let him work or learn to drive a car. She doesn’t want him to get hurt. Another one raised to be worthless.
     
  6. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    A boy HAS TO learn to be responsible in order to become a Man. The earlier he learns, the better it will be for him in life. My sister has 3 brothers, all who are responsible and make $100k or better. All self employed. All own a home. But then she doesn’t want her son to be like us, so now he’s fat and smelly and depressed.

    She has a childhood friend that got pregnant in the 9th grade that too raised her son to be worthless. 30 years old and hasn’t had a job day one. I reckon that I need to research and try to figure out who is telling these people how to raise children. Participation trophies are bad, but worlds better than the neckbeard nest.

    Look up neckbeard nest. It will make you apologize to your fellow drivers.
     
  7. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    This is called moving the goalpost

    You bragged about working at 10 and 12, i pointed out exactly what you are saying here in the post, legally speaking, its not much of an option outside the 2 (lawn/snow) that rely on
    Geography
    Neighborhood
    Community trust (qbf fleshed that out)

    At no point have i defended the way things are, at no point have i said this is how it ought to be, but at every turn i encouraged you to have the humility to recognise that its not quite as simple as "kids should get jobs"

    @Midwest Trucker
    Midwest has a good counterpoint, and has exhibited the encouragement to a kid that had the drive to work. Doing this is the KIND of community engagement/trust that neighbors ought to have. But i would be wary of saying this is the norm. Midwest could just as easily have written the kid off as "that druggies kid" and refused to let him near the house. He didnt to his credit, but i don't believe that this is the norm.
     
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  8. rogueunh

    rogueunh Road Train Member

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    From my experience, the generation coming along after the Millenials are putting them to shame. The kids aged 16-24 have done well, and have a much better work ethic than Millenials in general.
    The Home Depots, restaurants, etc the past couple years around where I am have been run by high school kids lol.
     
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  9. '88K100

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    Maybe the under 25s’ in your ‘hood. I been trucking over 40 year cuz I’m too lazy to get a real job, Its not like real work or even a career,,,simply a time filler to keep the wolves from the door
     
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  10. mpd240

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    It’s because of a social safety net. Not many people starve in America. Being hungry motivates those that can work.
     
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  11. Rideandrepair

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    Every generation can blame the prior for the problems. The Older Generations always criticize the newer ones. I do it myself. Seems I’ve been on both ends of the criticism, now that I’m older. I’m particularly amused to hear others talk about the past. Sometimes they sound like a whole different person than the one I knew!!! Human Nature, I suppose. Back in my day, Blah Blah Blah!! That’s what the newer generation hears. At some point everyone has to take responsibility for their actions. The idea that anyone’s whole life situation is because of something else is a cop out. Everyone has a chance at a good life. It’s not always about money. Being ungrateful leads to misery. Blaming others is a waste of energy. No working class has ever had it easy. Times have always been tough. But things go in cycles. The Depression era folks went on to the best of times. I think a lot of blame gets put on the wrong cause. Economics plays a big part in our decisions. Everyone wants a good life. It’s up to each individual to be pro active in their decisions, instead of making excuses. I say that as a person who used to blame others for everything, never taking responsibility. Somewhere in my early 20s, I did a complete 180. I finally grew up.
     
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