is it legal

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by snowwy, Jul 1, 2014.

  1. BROKENSPROKET

    BROKENSPROKET Medium Load Member

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    Uh oh. I use the rubrail the anchor point every time I use chains. The hooks of my straps anchor to the rub rail.
     
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  3. misterG

    misterG Road Train Member

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    Dang it Bayou,
    I had to re-read the OP, (this time with my cheaters on).
    He doesn't say that he is using the chain like a loop. SO that it attaches back to the same side. though It would be an easy guess that is what he is doing.
    I thought that he would be using it as an extension of that original strap. To form on continuous link, from one side to the other.
    I also noted that he is using 1\4 in. chain, not 5\16. So its a small WLL to begin with. So a straight length would have what, a half WLL of about 1500? Not much indeed.
     
  4. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    When we use chains and make a loop around spools to hook the binder to we don't half the wll of the chain. We don't half the wll of the binder because it doesn't hook to both sides of the trailer. Why would this be any different?

    I'm thinking one "chain" per strap. Or reverse the situation. .. throw the chain over, make a loop in the end, and use the strap to tighten it down. It may be a combination of articles but it is still one tiedown.
     
  5. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

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    For the 100th time if you take a strap or chain from one side of your trailer attaches to your load makes a loop back to the same side of that trailer it cuts your will in half...........
     
  6. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    yes, I agree. But people are talking about cutting the wll of the chain on a typical indirect tiedown just because the chain is looped around a securment point.
     
  7. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    If your chain goes from the trailer and ties to a securement point, such as a shackle for instance, you only get 1/2 the WLL for that as well. Only time you get 100% the WLL is when you go from 1 side of the trailer to the opposite side.

    So when you tie down a tractor per-say, you only get 1/2 the WLL when you tie down the 4 corners
     
  8. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    Im thinking of a strap from one side to the other but hooked to a chain loop instead of a "rail". Is sounding like people are saying the chain loop wll should be halved because it only connects to one side o of the trailer but it's part of a tie down that connects to both sides. Is interesting. :)
     
  9. Guntoter

    Guntoter Road Train Member

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    Like my Daddy alway said "if you can't dazzle the cops with brilliance, baffle them with bu*l Sh**."

    Just act like you do it all the time.
     
  10. kylefitzy

    kylefitzy Road Train Member

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    If you are using a 4" strap with a chain hook and hook it to a short chain hooked to the stake pocket would that get halved if the strap goes over the load? what about 2 short chains hooked together to make one long one? i would say full WLL on both.
     
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