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Is it me or is it time to ban recap tires from on-highway use?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Brandonpdx, Jun 3, 2023.

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  1. Jun 4, 2023 #41
    MACK E-6

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    I’d say that ratio may be correct.

    On an average I’ve had it happen about once every 5 years, all with trailer tires.
     
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  3. Jun 4, 2023 #42
    dibstr

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    That’s because CVSA criteria for inspectors states “Measure tire air pressure only if there is evidence the tire is under-inflated.”
     
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  4. Jun 4, 2023 #43
    exhausted379

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    Such bs.
     
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  5. Jun 4, 2023 #44
    Long FLD

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    The 10 years I drove for my old boss at the flatbed company the only time we had virgin tires all the way around was when a truck and trailer were new. After the first year the drives and trailer tires were replaced with caps. Only virgin tires were steer axle and the lift axles on truck and trailer. In 10 years I had two blowouts, one on the truck lift axle and one on the trailer lift axle. I never had a retread blow. But we also had common sense. If we were 105k gross and it was 100 degrees outside we didn’t slam down the road at 70+.
     
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  7. Jun 4, 2023 #45
    rbrtwbstr

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    I wouldn't say you're nuts, our parts changer seems to think the same. But, when he's changing everyone's drive tires at 85000 miles, and wondering why, and mine which are at 120 psi are making it 140000 miles, I have to wonder who is more correct. Me or the parts changer? For the record I have never had a tire issue, but it seems the others have a blowout at least once a year
     
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  8. Jun 4, 2023 #46
    Brandonpdx

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    I think truck tire and wheel technology has come a long way since then. In 1992 that may have been somewhat true. Caps are illegal on the front of large motor coaches for good reason.
     
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  9. Jun 4, 2023 #47
    Brandonpdx

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    In a perfect world where everybody does what they are supposed to do all the time I suppose a re-cap could be nearly as reliable as a new one, but that just ain’t the way it goes out in the real world. Because of the inherent safety hazard exploding tires present to a 70 mph interstate highway environment where people are often traveling stupidly close to each other, I am just baffled this one still flies in 2023. Some of those casings are 10+ years old…too old to be trusted on public highway anyway. Off highway use or farm exemptions that’s different. When I’m in charge it’s an automatic no-renewal on annual FMCSA inspection sticker if a truck or trailer has caps on it.
     
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  10. Jun 4, 2023 #48
    Brandonpdx

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    It depends on what kind of weight the tires see regularly. At the vehicles maximum gross weight you would not want them lower than the door jam sticker says. The engineers carefully figured that out. But a lot of people run light to where 110 psi isn’t necessary and makes the truck ride worse.
     
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  11. Jun 4, 2023 #49
    Long FLD

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    And when there are still blowouts what will your plan be? It’s not like guys will start checking tire pressure just because they have virgin tires. I’d trust a cap on a good casing before I’d trust a virgin Linglong tire from China.

    I’ve been out here since April of 1997 and ten of those years were spent with 8 caps on the drives and 12 caps on the trailer. I’ve had two tires blow in all those years, both virgin tires on steerable lift axles.

    Without stopping and looking at every chunk of rubber you see on the road you really have no idea if it’s a cap or not unless your eyes are that good at 70mph. There was a thread somewhere last week where a person was complaining about blowing trailer tires because his boss was cheap and ran caps, but the pics he posted of said tires were virgin Bridgestones.
     
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  12. Jun 4, 2023 #50
    snowwy

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    Not really

    Virgins last. They don't have glue and caps.

    Glue gives out. Caps disintegrate. The list goes on.
     
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