Is it posssible to plug and play replace an Acert Cat with 6NZ

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  1. Crassius

    Crassius Light Load Member

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    I am getting back into trucking after 20 years away... never could get it out of my blood...

    As I search for a truck, I have decided to buy a high mileage pre-emissions Cat powered Peterbilt of Kenworth that is near/ready for a re-build and priced accordingly. I am planning on investing money in a re-build/ reman, rebuild clutch etc.... The goal is to end up with a rebuilt driveline that will run without (major) trouble for a long time.... without spending the cost of building from a new glider. I look at it as a glider build off a used million mile chassis.

    There are plenty of 387's available that could fit this bill.... (and T600's) I like the roominess of the 387, but then I tried out a 386.... and I really like this model. It reminds me of the old 359 I used to drive, but updated in a way I like. It feels right from the drivers seat, but is still slippery without the bling-bling do-dads hanging off of it. Been there, done that with the 359 in 1990's when fuel was $1.05 a gallon. Problem is... the available 386's are all post emissions trucks.

    How hard would it be to put a reman 6NZ into a 386 that now has a worn out ACERT? Does the wiring harness need to be changed?... I'm guessing having to re-wire makes it cost prohibitive.
     
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  3. ROBSREDFORD

    ROBSREDFORD Light Load Member

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    The truck side wiring on acert is same as 6nz.
     
  4. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    very simple you will have to alter the exhaust some and the turbo tubes to the cac. bolt it in and go!
     
  5. Crassius

    Crassius Light Load Member

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    Thanks for the replys... too bad the 386's didn't come out a few years earlier.... but at least its a possible option.
     
  6. KustomTruck

    KustomTruck Bobtail Member

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    Pay attention to the year model of the 386 your considering, an '06 - '07 will have a MXS or NXS most likely and will require no modification to the wire harness. If your donor chassis came in '08 and newer you most likely have a SDP CAT and in that case, no the wire harness is not plug and play, modifications will need to be made.

    As superhauler mentioned earlier you will also need to address your piping kits regardless of the conversion.
     
  7. Crassius

    Crassius Light Load Member

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    Thanks, KustomTruck.

    If I go with a high mileage 386 donor chassis, I'll take heed of your '06 or '07 advice coming from such a fine builder of sexy trucks as yourself.

    If I were to come to you requesting a glider build from a new 386 chassis, but wanted to spec a re-manufactured pre '04 engine, I guess re-wiring applies. Starting from a new chassis though.... its a bigger investment in the project overall, and the re-wiring can be monetized over a longer period of useful life of the truck, and so the cost of the rewiring may be practical. Fitzgerald must think it is with their cookie cutter bread and butter (ugly) glider builds.

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  8. morehp

    morehp Medium Load Member

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    SDP to 6NZ requires minor wiring changes, on the truck 70 pin side and some programming with ESA for the CECU, not Realy a big deal.
     
  9. Cat sdp

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    Is there some law , that says when repowering a truck you have to use correct EPA engine for chassis.

    So putting a 6nz in a 08 chassis might not be "legal" ?
     
  10. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    law szmall!!! I have a 2000 model engine in a 2006 chassis. looks like it supposed to be in there.
     
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  11. dirthaller

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    I'M still wondering why you would ditch a NXS,MXS in favor of a 6NZ. I own 1 of each and for about $10K my NXS has more power, same MPG.
     
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