Is oilfield trucking in the Bakken going downhill?

Discussion in 'Oilfield Trucking Forum' started by Adam121, Oct 11, 2013.

  1. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    I'm concerned about being too argumentative. Context. Oilfield wages are off their high but you're right, compared to non oilfield wages, what's going on right now is nearly a miracle. I never saw it coming.

    Quality Mike said an experienced driver can easily make $130k. I hadn't seen that. But, it's not just experience, it's oilfield experience. Companies like oilfield experience and that experience teaches you where the good jobs are. This weekend I'm getting my OSHA 10 hour, never heard of it until I came to ND. If I didn't rotate I wouldn't be too far from that money he was talking about.
     
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  3. Adam121

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    Honestly, what motivates me to work is having a job. I'm not one of these people that likes sitting on their ### and being lazy. If I have a job, I make sure I do it. If the only thing motivating you to actually do the job you are hired to do is percentage, then you a lazy POS and need to get fired for it. Don't penalize people who actually do their jobs. I've worked in the oilfield for years and years, and what I've seen happen is that once they start screwing people over with wages, then they start taking other stuff (the housing, the per diem, the mileage to get home, etc) and then then lay you off and they get to start over with new cheap labor. Then you have to uproot yourself and find another place that you can find a decent wage. But the worst is listening to people then blame ME for all the problems with wages (because I'm not from the US originally) because they are bigots. I've watched it in many states and a couple countries and I know what i'm talking about. If you have only been in the oilfield for less than a year, wait until spring and then we'll talk.

    By the way, I've never had a problem dealing with foreign drivers, because the only thing that motivates you to be that far from home is money, so why would they lowball themselves? The guys who always mess everything up are the ones that only want to have enough for the strip clubs and cigarettes and put stupid huge lift kit on a cheap ### truck. The reason people come up here is because it's better, so why would you turn it into the sh*thole that you left? I have no problem with the Bubbas personally, but seriously, you have to have to go along with the majority of workers somewhere new. The only thing I don't like about America is that everyone follows stupid company rules just because they are rules, even if they make no sense and don't benefit you in any way. You have to let people know something is crap otherwise they will just keep feeding it to you. "If the company said it, it must be right and if you disagree you are a pinko socialist commie" attitude gets you screwed over time after time.
     
  4. aktundratugger

    aktundratugger Light Load Member

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    As you said "this is America" open your own company, make the rules you like, pay high wages.
     
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  5. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    I'll grant you that we may have different priorites than Bubba about what we want money for but the vast majority of the guys coming on here are looking for better lives for themselves and they'll leave a low paying employer in a heartbeat if they can find better- can I get a witness? Small fleet owners? I know I just did.

    I'm sorry but it fits a stereotype, you aren't a natural born American and you don't get how this economy works. When you're a consumer you want things which price has been beaten down by the competitive pressures of the market but then when you are a cost, labor, you don't want competition. You aren't afraid of foreign labor (Mexican truck drivers in America) but the funniest thing, that is the greatest threat to the wages of American drivers. Not because they are bad people but because what looks cheap to you will look like a great deal to them.

    There is still a lot of hourly work out here, go find what makes you happy. And yes, be thankful for each day you can live and be thankful you have the health to work and earn an income and be thankful you have the freedom to quit and move on when you don't like what you have.
     
  6. Gaugeline

    Gaugeline Bobtail Member

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    You must not be in texas then.
     
  7. russellkanning

    russellkanning Medium Load Member

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    what would a fair wage or rate be?
     
  8. Adam121

    Adam121 Bobtail Member

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    I'm getting what hourly work I can but what I am interviewing for is really good. I guess I'm going to have to get into something else once it's over, though. I guess I didn't realize that the only country with an economy is the US. No one else ever has to deal with supply and demand or labor issues...nope, only the US. Only Americans know anything about anything. Everyone else in the world are hunter gatherers without a concept of money. Totally. I hope you travel some to see what the rest of the world is like, I think it would really give you some perspective.
     
  9. Adam121

    Adam121 Bobtail Member

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    It would be something between $24 to $28 per hour depending on your experience (percentage will only mean you will be spending a lot of time working for free, which is infuriating). Housing should be provided by the employer (either for free or a reasonable amount depending on the kind of hours you get) and the overtime is really what makes it worth it to be up here. There are also health concerns from the silica dust and chemicals, so of course they should provide some kind of insurance. Oh, and most will make sure you have the right kind of cold gear before you get here because it is extreme weather. There are still lots of opportunities, and I just want people to be aware that they may not be getting the best deal out there if they are unfamiliar with the area.
     
  10. Oregon Grown

    Oregon Grown Light Load Member

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    What do you mean by that? Im curious cause that's where I'm headed.
     
  11. scstubbs

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    Does OSHA 10hr or 30hr help land a driving job, and if so which one?
     
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