Is there a database of DOT Physicals available to doctors?

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  1. Concorde

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    “Evaluating physicians need no written authorizations from employees to report evaluation information and results to MROs or to employers, as appropriate.”
    That’s what he C&P’d from the link he didn’t post and it’s clearly in regards to drug testing results.

    There is zero guidance from fmcsa on sharing dot physical medical records..only that it’s not prohibited.

    I’m going to tap out of this thread now..starting to remind me of a thread where the driver couldn’t get his trailer doors to close on flat ground :)
     
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  3. Ridgeline

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    Look, stop splitting hairs.

    If the examiner needs to see the previous year's records, they don't need your permission.

    The system is set up to catch people who lie.
     
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  4. expedite_it

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    Could you post a link to that thread please?
     
  5. ZVar

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    Mind showing the law you are so confident exists?

    Oh right, you can't because it doesn't exist. But of course you will gop back to the "I'm not arguing with you. " so you don't have to prove what isn't there.
     
  6. Concorde

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  7. tscottme

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    Your original question was "Is there a national database of DOT Physicals available to doctors administering DOT Physicals?"
    It seems the answer is definitely yes. The fact one doctor may or may not check the database when you used it last doesn't mean the database doesn't exist, it means the doc didn't check or if he did he didn't deny your medical.

    There is a database of prescribed medicine. If some doc or someone with access to the prescription database wants to deny someone a medical because they forgot or lied about having been prescribed medicine, the "punisher" could do that. In practical terms, as people have explained it to them, your medicines are entered but few people consult the database unless they are preparing to prescribe an abusable medication or one that is widely distributed on the black market. The fact you didn't report the medicine for toenail fungus and the doc didn't catch the omission doesn't disprove the database. Speeding is illegal, but not every driver going 1 mph or more ovre the limit is ticketed/fined. That's not proof speeding is legal.
     
  8. tscottme

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    One day you may understand the last thing we need is 100% compliance with every law/rule/regulation, if society survives long enough. IMO, the only laws we should have are the laws that most everyone can agree are worth sticking a gun in someone's face to enforce, because every law has that option and sticking an official gun in a citizen's face to enforce some laws is a good way to burn down society.
     
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  9. tscottme

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    You are making some assumptions in your question and the law is not a safe field to make assumptions. Maybe the medical examiner DIDN'T access the database, instead of COULDN'T access the database. That's why one way to have less problems is to look like someone the official sees often and doesn't suggest any problems need to be investigated. If you show up to the doctor with obvious health issues and great difficulty doing certain things and then claim no medical history the doc won't believe it and will investigate and find some of your history. However if you present to the doctor as a normal person with no health issues and claim no medical history you have a better chance of slipping through the cracks until the day comes where every candidate is thoroughly screened and all databases checked prior to getting your DOT card, a week or two after your doctor visit. Every system has pluses and minuses. No system doesn't have them, no system.
     
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  10. Kyle G.

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    looks like @expedite_it trapped a few more victims in his spider web.
     
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  11. Stringb8n

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    I understand that DOT regulatory requirements take precedence over HIPAA. This said though, I have not ever run into a DOT doctor who did my physical reviewing any past DOT physical I have done, unless it was one done with that particular doctor. I have some health issues but none that affect the safe operation of a vehicle, or my performance in doing my job. So I would say though there is the database, it doesn't mean every doctor does use it other than to upload your new results and/or med card.
     
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