What I have in mind is commercial trucks Class 4-6. But since this is a heavy truck forum I'll ask a few questions there too.
Are there any shops that service both MEDIUM-duty as well as heavy-duty CMV's? Do any hire mechanics that only service MEDIUM-duty vehicles or do truck/diesel mechanics generally service trucks in both medium and heavy categories?
I was a 63B10 in the United States Army. Light-wheeled vehicle mechanic. My MOS only dealt with light-to-medium tactical military vehicles. This ranged from pickup trucks to 5-ton trucks under 26,000 pounds GVWR. I'm considering entering the civilian trade as a repairer of commercial trucks. What trade training do I need over military mechanical experience to be job-marketable? Most military vehicle mechanics are "certified parts changers" as I was. I never received any training or experience in removing engines and transmissions. I was never trained to adjust valves on diesel or gasoline truck engines. None of my army vehicle has such amenities as car stereos, power windows, cruise control or air conditioning. Army trucks are highly Spartan tools of warfare.
I want to specialize in power trains. Knowing how to correctly adjust valves interests me. Engines, transmissions, clutches, torque converters, PTO's, drive shafts, U-joints, live axles, transfers. I don't like tire/brake/suspension/steering work nor do I like complex electrical diagnostics work. I hate routine services like lube/oil/filter. I like to diagnose things and fix broken things. Busting one's back with commercial tires, wheels and drums is peon work. I did a lot of that crap for seven years in Army motor pools.
Is there a forum such as this for medium-duty truck mechanics?
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Moose Holland, Feb 16, 2023.
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First and foremost, thank you for your service. These days, I'd have to think any company would roll out the red carpet for you. There aren't too many credible references like Uncle Sam. 2nd, I'm not aware of a class difference in trucks, mechanics work on everything from pickups to front end loaders. While the rest of the world is going to Hades, a mechanic will have work, and at top pay, for years to come, until the oil runs out, anyway. I'd find a reputable shop in your area, and talk to them. They may even put you though some specialty course, they need mechanics that badly. Mechanics are harder to find than drivers today, and you will be a shoe in. Good luck.
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Thanks for your reply, 201. I did have to remove the steel cab from an Army Hough wheel loader once and that was outside my MOS. As a civilian career, I would want to specialize in the powertrains of road-going trucks. For road-testing, I gather a diesel truck mechanic might need a CDL for Class 7+ equipment. Speaking of the heavy trucks, I prefer Kenworth and Peterbilt.
I don't know if I would put the following one my resume: I don't do tires, brakes, wheels, steering and suspensions. I don't do "heavy junk" or buses. I don't do trailers. I don't do vehicle electrical and lighting. I don't do trucks above Class 6.
Many rental trucks and moving vans are in the medium-duty range. So are a lot of trucks in the fleets of utility companies.
I feel I would need to attend a trade school to specialize in diesel on-road power trains FOR CMV'S. I'm not sure if diesel mechanics tear down/rebuild engines and transmisions in shop or just replace these as whole assembies.
I don't know what mechanics will have to fix when the oil runs out. Probably wood-burning steam locomotives. Maybe they will someday have all-electric trucks. Corn-oil-fueled vehicles?Last edited: Feb 16, 2023
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Shy away from the I don’t do’s ……
I am looking for the guys that will scrub the floors if I ask them. But, they never will because I need them for more important tasks.
One must serve in the trenches and earn his keep to get the training and respect to climb the ladder to the next level.
Dealer level is the only place where you will receive next level training in the areas you wish to learn and accelerate.Last edited: Feb 16, 2023
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I don't do's won't get you very far in this profession. As a mechanic, the foreman/service manager expect you to do whatever job they hand you. You may not like what they give you but its either that or be shown the door. Versatility is key.
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Some mechanics may specialize in Kenworths but don't know squat about Volvos.
Vehicles are just too sophisticated these days for each and every mechanic/tech to know each and every one of those trucks from in-dash radio transistors to torque converters. One would not hire a dentist to perform brain surgery in the medical profession, would they? New vehicles are about as tricky in design as a human body. -
At a dealer, they will expect you to work on anything. There were days I would finish up changing a DPF in a skid steer and then be assigned rebuilding a grader tandem or removing a transmission on a dozer. You can't just tell the boss you won't do it or that its not your specialty, it won't get you very far. Manuals, troubleshooting and repair procedures are all on the dealer portals these days. Its not like you're being thrown into it blind.
A good manager gets to know the employee's strengths and weaknesses and will try to assign work based on that but its not always possible. A good mechanic is someone who is versatile and can adapt to different work.homeskillet, 201 and Sirscrapntruckalot Thank this. -
government owned and the military operated. Technologically speaking, as a truck mechanic for the Army, I did not have to know much more than a half dozen different truck models or series. Gasoline vehicles were pretty much phased out including jeeps and Dodge pickup trucks after my first year of service. We had GM-diesel-V8 powered Hummers, 800 series 5-ton, 900 series 5-ton, deuce and half, light-duty GM diesel trucks and that is about it for my MOS. A few trailers and water buffaloes to service also. What is nice about a fleet of trucks is that you have many of the same kind parked online. During troubleshooting procedures, you could swap out a suspected bad part for one that is known to be good from another vehicle if the same kind. Kinda a cheat method. The army trucks had these black boxes on the firewalls called protective control boxes. Swaping these out was a simple diagnosis. The engine won't start if one of these puppies is defective. I was a certified parts changer for army motor pools.
Fleet owner/operators hiring their own in-house mechanics are likely going to have a bunch of similar vehicles. Possibly a lot of the same models. Motor freight carriers tend to be brand loyal. They might, for instance, have a whole fleet of Kenworth tractors made over the past 20 years. This simplifies things when you have a bunch of the same kinds of vehicles to service. Working on nothing but Kenworths everyday will make a fleet mechanic a Kenworth expert over time.Last edited: Feb 17, 2023
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thedieselgarage.com has a medium duty truck section. I don't go there often but it looks like a good resource.
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Maybe at a Ford Commercial Trucks dealership, you could be more exclusively medium- or heavy duty, or you might work in the medium duty shop of a MD/HD dealership, e.g., Rush Peterbilt in Denver has a separate medium duty shop. Working as a fleet tech, I’ve finished up working on something like an Oshkosh Striker then a push behind snowblower or golf cart immediately afterwards.
Anyhow, diesel tech is diesel tech.homeskillet Thanks this.
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