Is there help for solo drivers who have trouble reversing?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by crabby125s girl, Dec 10, 2009.

  1. crabby125s girl

    crabby125s girl Heavy Load Member

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    My bf and his teammate spent a month or so in trucking school learning to drive (seperately).
    They spent 2 months or so with a trainer learning to drive (seperately).
    Now they have been on the road almost 2 months driving together.
    That's about 5 months of practice and still my bf's teammate can't back up and park on his own.

    I don't mean to knock the teammate - it doesn't come quickly and simply to everybody but my bf is starting to have major problems with being woke out of his much needed sleep to help his teammate back up the truck/trailer 90% of the time. And at it's worst the teammate can take up to 45 mins getting the backing up and parking (or backing up to the loading dock) just right.

    Me and the bf were saying that we don't know how his teammate would manage if he was a solo driver without an extra pair of eyes to help him reverse.
    But the bf is reaching the end of his rope being woken up every night. Now with the weather getting colder the bf is even more steamed about getting up in the middle of his sleep into the 10 degree night air to help his teammate reverse. I don't know how much longer the bf can hold it together before he explodes on his teammate, due to annoyance and lack of sleep, which he really does not want to do.

    Are there any helper tools the teammate could use to help the him reverse by himself? Or is there no help but more practice?
     
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  3. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Probably hopeless . That teammate's trainer should have rejected him .
    Your BF should stand firm on his sleeper berth time and report the problem to his DM .
    And what fine trucking school turned this incompetent individual loose on the public ?
     
  4. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    More than likely, it will suddenly come to him. (the guy who can't back). That's a problem with team driving. If your BF stays in the sleeper and forces his team mate to go it alone, then he hits something, they both get dinged. Just another joy of trucking.
     
  5. crabby125s girl

    crabby125s girl Heavy Load Member

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    I don't know where the teammate got his CDL training from. The bf met up with him at Werner orientation. When they found out they lived near eachother they decided to team up after training and that worked out for them.
    The bf likes the teammate as a person for the most part and hometime is so much easier with a teammate that lives nearby but the lack of confidence and ability this guy has not made it easy on the bf.
    The bf has the teammate backing up for every delivery, just to give him practice because even the teammate agrees he needs the practice.
    I just posted here wondering if, besides practice, there was any other way to help the teammate out, which indirectly gives my bf more sleep!
     
  6. The Road Dog

    The Road Dog Light Load Member

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    seen that" more than a few time's over the yrs. one or the other of a team with No" backing skill's! How you get your CDL with out that basic skill??? is really...beyond...reason! but to stay in the industry, and not progress in that ability is...sad! for all concerend.
     
  7. Rug_Trucker

    Rug_Trucker Road Train Member

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    You can dinged while being off duty? Off duty IMO is off duty.

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  8. Texas-Nana

    Texas-Nana Princess Drives-a-Lot

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    Maybe he doesn't know what to look for? Or perhaps he's making HUGE motions with the steering wheel? That'll flip his tail back and forth because he's contantly over compensating. (I learned that the hard way)

    Can your bf take him somewhere and have him practice straight line backing?
     
  9. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    I dont think thats a good idea, Nana. See, teamate is using bf as a crutch. BF can back, but he doesnt back well enough to show teamate how to. No offense meant to the young lady, but its true. BF idea of showing him is getting out and guiding him back. Thats not the way to do it in this case. A good trainer would be able to talk him through the process from the passenger seat, from setup to execution.

    I believe that teamate has the mechanics down (the opposite steering thingie). I'd say that either his approach and setup are wrong, or he doesnt know when to start following the trailer and oversteers. Find someone at the next truckstop to show him. He'll pick it up.
     
  10. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Rug trucker, I know what you mean about being off duty etc. but , considering this scenario with 2 newbies, I'm thinking it's best to wake up your partner to AVOID any problems. If the driver backing hits something, the other guy will be woken up anyway, so, what's the difference? What's your feelings on driver 1 pulling up to a chain-up area? Should he install the chains by himself or wake up his buddy to help?
     
  11. Rug_Trucker

    Rug_Trucker Road Train Member

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    Well, in a friendly way I believe it would be time to give dude a "come to Jesus" talk. Have him pull out his books and figure it out. As wacky as things are I don't need someone else dragging me down, or into a situation.

    And as far as chaining up? I was a flat land subtropical trucker! Chains went on the airplane tires on our swamp buggies! :biggrin_255: If the guy is chaining up? I'm going to be awke as I don't want to be in the sleeper when this yuck-yuck is behind the wheel.

    One thing I wish I would have had in school here recently was skid pad training. I have had some hairy things happen in the past. Never an accident. A week or 2 into my first semi job I had a trailer come partially around. I pulled the trolley brake and drove out of it. It must have been a drive axel lockup as I straightened out. I never had any formal traing back then. My trailer brakes were most likely out of adjustment. I learned to adjust them several months down the road.

    I used to keep 4 spares ready, carried 2 with me. Yes they were Dayton wheel with no safety equipment to contain a possible rim explosion. Did my own brake adjustments, oil and filter changes.

    1981 R model Mack.
     
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