I am new to the thread and currently serving out a 3 year contract in the Army in which a year I will be out. I am no spring chicken, I went to tech school for HVAC and worked in that industry for 9 years making good money, but service industries are very slow right now. My father has been a truck driver for going on 40 years, he has done it all in the industry, he now hauls cars for Subaru and sometimes Toyota out of Indiana. He has made a very good living, as I had a very good childhood and wanted for pretty much nothing along with my 2 brothers and 1 sister and my mom who didn't have to work.
I am throwing around some idea's, I could open an HVAC business and do what I already know and am good at, but I have always thought driving a truck would be nice and have started looking into that route. One of my many plans is to use my GI bill to go to tech school for Heavy Diesel Technology where i would have to get my CDL A anyways and work myself into owning my own truck and trailer and be an O/O while doing all major overhauls and maintenance myself, well all of it that I could do, I understand if I break down on the side of the road I will be at the mercy of the local 24 hour mobile mechanic. But my goal is to try and keep my expenses super low.
Now, I have been reading all these horror stories on this site, and it is really making me think this idea is out the window. Seems like nobody likes what they do, and is always getting screwed over royally by the companies they work for. I don't know if this is just coming from a fringe group of people that like to whine and complain because they are lazy and don't want to put in any effort and get what they deserve from the companies. Seems like that is probably the case for most. I know in anything there will be hardships and things you have to work through and sacrifice to be a success, and trucking would probably be no different. I am going to talk to my Dad more about this and see what he thinks about it, but there has to be some better stories out there and some money to be made if you are willing to put the work in.
Like I said, this is just an idea at this point, and the trucking industry is not going away anytime in the next 100 years, so I would like to know if my plan of keeping all aspects in house and done by me or my wife is doable, has anyone approached a business model like this. Is OTR more profitable than regional or local stuff for an O/O outfit? What would be a good company to start out with to get some experience with, there has to be some good companies out there right?
I have a family so I am obviously going to try and be home whenever I can, but I understand that to make good money you need to get some miles in and will probably not be home every weekend.
Would "hot shotting" be a good way to get started and build the business up from a pickup truck to a tractor? Is buying an older tractor and putting in a fresh driveline a good way to go?
Is this business really that bad??
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by JPalmer81, Sep 7, 2012.
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First off, thank you for your service. Secondly, I'm also just getting into it but from what I've read so far, I'd probably shy away from jumping straight to O/O. Even an older truck is probably going to be more expensive than you realize, and that'd be a costly lawn ornament if you decide you don't like this work.
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Trucking is vocational, so a lot of drivers are not at the top of the charts for smarts (that includes me also). Sounds like you have some. So if air conditioning is in your back ground already, you might think about going with flat beds and delivering your own products in the future. Possible that you would be dealing with some Crane companies also, getting A/Cs on top of buildings and such. Pay out of pocket to get your license at a good trucking school, then if you can hook up with someone that you know, that sells and delivers A/Cs, learn the ropes, go on some local runs and get a feel for trucking, rather than living away from home for three to six months at at a time with what could be a bad or good experience. 50/50 Hard to say with any starter company how it will go. Living in a small space with someone you don't know can be real tough at times. Stay close to the family if you can. Good Luck !
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It really is what you put in. I have a buddy who is a true owner op, owns his truck outright, and trailer, has is own MC number and he just runs local. He makes decent money. I make over a grand a week and I'm home weekly, I'm a company driver with less than 1 yr experience.
I didn't settle for the bottom feeders, I didn't find my company on craigslist or any of that, I went on their website, filled out the app, called them up the next day and got the ball rolling. It took about a month to get hired by them but it was worth it, I love what I do, have excellent benefits and pay.
I think too many rookies make the mistake where they jump the gun and settle figuring theyll put in a year at a bottom feeder if anything. It's like any other job out there, why settle for the crap job, wouldn't you strive for the best? -
flat bed is getting slow.
i'm contributing the reason to the likes of swift, central, and what not getting into the act now.
much like schneider has gotten into tanks.
i don't see much business for the small carrier anymore with the majors taking everything they can get.
back home the same effect happened 2 years ago in construction. we used to have 5 big companies and some smaller outfits.
the smaller is virtually extinct now and 2 of the big sold to 2 other big. leaving only 3 big companies now. -
Seems like the local crane stuff would be pretty seasonal, at least all the guys that I talked to when I was in the HVAC bus. Seems like those guys worked for several different companies at once, kinda switched around alot.
I plan on going to a good independent CDL school, as with heavy diesel technology, most of them anyways require you get your CDL A before you graduate, and my GI bill will pay for all of it. i will never go to one of the big companies fiasco they have going. maybe there are some that are better than others, but from what i have read on here they are to be avoided at all costs unless you absolutely have nothing else you can do and that is your only way into the trade. Fortunately, i have options.
2003-2008 my work was great, worked all the hours i wanted and made alot of money, 2008-2010 were horrible, lucky to work at all, then I decided to join the Army since everything was so slow and maybe it would be back to normal when I got out, plus serving was always something I wanted to do as well. Well I am getting out in a year and I don't know if anything is better than it was in 2010, maybe a little better, but not much. But kinda nervous about going out and trying to start a business with HVAC, and there isn't much out there available in that trade where I am moving back to, SoutH West, ARK right outside of Texarkana.
The only reason i am looking into this business is because it has been so good for my Dad, sure he has had to switch to a few different companies and haul stuff he really didn't want to haul, but all and all he has stayed steady and made money and took care of us kids growing up. And I don't remember him being gone too terribly much, maybe I was just used to it as a kid, but always loved waking up in the morning and seeing his big rig parked out in the driveway, dad was home and I was happy. and plus I got to go play in the truck! he didn't always know about it either, but i never broke anything, thank God, or I might not be here today!
Like I said, i have options and absolutely will not settle for a crappy situation when there is better to be had. I think it will make it better since my Dad has been in the business for a long time and can probably give me the hook up with someone he knows. Not completely depending on that and am going to do all the work I can to search out a good Company. I am hearing good things about ACT, like the fact that they are smaller and there incentive program is awesome, pay is not based off of seniority, but off of performance, think that is great and more companies should model their business off that. But they want 9 months experience with a trucking school and 18 months without, but you never know, I might get lucky. I am in no hurry, so I will not rush into anythingLast edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2012
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Stay with the HVAC my opinion.
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Re-up with Uncle Sam. You know he has trucks and hvac too. Every Battalion needs a good RNU. Military retirement and VA medical will be more reliable than private sector benefits.
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Have not read all of the post but my suggestion(s) is/are ~ I have a good lead on a really heavy operator who will run you in the ground with hours if you had your CDL already, it looks like a stable route - to driving - is a major factor in your decision process so what I have may not be best ~ especially since OP not have Class-A CDL already - thus what we focus on is the school issue ......
I have 100,000 hours in industrial, construction, general road dog so like I can tell you based on what you said you really need to put FFE on your short-list, and probably Stevens but I have not looked into that as much .... the whole anti-recruiter talk is largely justified because those Office Orifice can run off at the mouth then skip to the Loo when the cheet hits the phan - there are a few recruiters who will be helpful and do it right but even they do not have to be there when and if something rips nor do they crank up at 4:00 AM and get with it.....
I do not tolerate them, I have response lags at 85 thousand-ths of a second, most people on the front-end of recruiting [ HR ] operate at 5-8 seconds response "window" .... if you seek a diesel school that subsets CDL driving as part of the course that is a good idea but you are not going to get major mechanical done in a TS backyard at a "Flying J in Podunk Arkansas" ==> anyone who is a mechanic by trade & nature will be able to assist you on why we do not rebuild TP3-CD in that setting ~ thus you are well advised to sift the "company sponsored training" to find things like the stevens potential new-hire package they sent me yesterday, if you want to pm me your contact data I will forward the lead to the two assistants to the lead recruiter ......
Based on your style of posting and the signature I would suggest working on this until you find one decent operator (of a truck-line) but just remember those "school" things are Federal if you bust out on the loan which means no time-limitations for collection procedures and if you bust the school - company sponsored or otherwise - then you are up for the loan amount [!]
the only non-truck-company-sponsored "online job-search" that is doing me any good is indeed ~ which is what this site links to .....
go read awhile, you are totally welcome to post on my job-search thread all you want as the only filter I have on that thread is actually looking for a job ......Last edited: Sep 7, 2012
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