Is this doable?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Izlomik Supatrucka, Jan 1, 2010.

  1. Izlomik Supatrucka

    Izlomik Supatrucka Light Load Member

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    Checked with a flatbedding outfit out of Arkansas that runs by my house house everyday
    hauling lumber to wood yards so it puts me home almost everyday unless a stragler load
    pops up and they dont run weekends.....Pay is $1.08 cpm base rate plus fuel surcharge,
    and this week the surcharge was .34 cpm so a total of $1.42 a mile loaded and empty miles......

    You have to have truck and trailer, guy says they average 2400 miles a week but can get
    up around 3000 a week, and its steady he has been dedicated to this company for 11 years
    but as is anything there is no garuntee.......I have very minimum bills as far as house vehicles
    n so on.....Looking at around a total of $1200 a month in truck and trailer payment combined and i have
    to have insurance, not sure how much thats guna be yet.....

    Is this doable or will a guy go flat broke haulin for this rate? The driver i talked to to get his
    # told me he loved it was doing pretty good and staying busy, said it was slow the last 2 weeks
    cause they only ran 3 days each week shutdown for holidays

    Im not trying to get into this and get rich, just looking to make a descent living and have my
    own rig, ive wanted to own my own truck for some time but i need a gig that keeps me fairly close
    to home and gets me by the homeplace 2 or 3 times a week to check on wife and 5 month old
    baby girl.....and this gig seems to fit into my category....ive never flatbedded before so it
    will be a new experience for me all ive ever done was haul fuel.....
     
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  3. Big John

    Big John Road Train Member

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    Your authority or theirs?
     
  4. Izlomik Supatrucka

    Izlomik Supatrucka Light Load Member

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    im pretty sure theirs....well i know it is he told me if i wanted to pull for him i had to have my own
    trailer and he would have plenty of work for me but had no openings for a company driver....i would
    think it would smart on his part to have me run under his authority for the safety
    of me not going and undercutting his rate and taking all the bidness for myself....i wouldnt
    do that but just thinking out loud i guess
     
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  5. halfburn

    halfburn Medium Load Member

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    What is the fuel surcharge based on? And the running under their authority like big john asked and is that loaded out and empty back or loaded both ways?
    The insurance will be doable but I can't recall what load insurance was. You will be paying yourself company driver wages at about $1.2? to 1.30 a mile but you will need to build a repair fund real fast with any profits so that doesn't stress you. You will be suprised at all the squeaks rattles and smoking that starts when you deplete your repair fund.

    The part that bugs me is the fuel surcharge. What is it based on and when can it be renegotiated? We have not hit the bottom of the economic collapse yet so what happens when fuel goes down to $2.00 a gallon then back up to $5.00 a gallon a few years later? The fuel surcharge pays for fluctuations in fuel prices and is not designed as a profit generator so I would feel a lot more comfortable if that base rate was better.
     
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  6. Tommo2

    Tommo2 Bobtail Member

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    Sounds interesting. Seems like a good place to start w/ a customer but now you need to work up real numbers on cost of going into business. You need details on exactly what equipment you need and where to get it. What type of tractor is best? What trailer? Talk to other o/o's at this co. or others like it for these answers and details as to the business arrangements and requirements to operate (profitably.) Margins are slim and you need to find out how much it's going to cost and how much to budget for maintenance and replacement of equipment. How much income you can expect, etc. What are your exact requirement for income? You have to set aside for retirement, for taxes, etc. Health insurance? What insurance will the carrier require you to obtain? Accidental injury? Liability?
     
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  7. Big John

    Big John Road Train Member

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    You have to tarp that lumber? I have seen some outfits in Arkansas that are hauling directly for the mill or the lumber company also is in the trucking buisness. Flatbed freight is slow and building is slower I would talk to some of their owner operators and see what their doing.
     
  8. Izlomik Supatrucka

    Izlomik Supatrucka Light Load Member

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    The guy maybe hauling strate for the mill im not sure.....his name is Bo Moses that im guna be pulling for......

    He didnt say and i didnt ask on the fuel surcharge what it was based off of he just said it fluctuates from week
    to week with the fuel prices.....he didnt state how high fuel was but said we have gotten up to 1.80 a mile......
    just from seeing all them flatbeds i think they are loaded 1 way and go back to the mill to load.....its all
    interstate the whole way about 200 miles 1 way strate down 30
     
  9. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    There is a standard formula most carriers use for the FSC . Some just use the given formula and some adjust it to be more appropriate for their trucks . I believe the formula is based on a truck getting 5.5 mpg . If you get better mileage than that it's to your benefit .
    I know some hotshotters that get 9 mpg or better . They calculate a fuel surcharge on that and use it as a sales tool . They show customers they charge less FSC than carriers using class 8 trucks .
    The only thing about FSC is as a rule it is only paid for loaded miles and not on deadhead miles .
     
  10. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    My only advice is to have a back-up plan. What you don't want is to buy a truck/trailer and then get laid off and have a parked truck in your driveway.
     
  11. MeatHead

    MeatHead Medium Load Member

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    Sounds pretty good to me. One of the biggest pluses is you keep running if that's the case.
     
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