Is this normal with a trainer?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by CordonBloo, Nov 12, 2024.

  1. tarmadilo

    tarmadilo Road Train Member

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    I had two bad trainers in a row, my third trainer was great. Don’t accept that.
     
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  3. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    I can't add too much more to what's been said. If it were me, I'd have a conversation. It may be some questions about the job, but I'd let him know my displeasure. I'd only have that dialogue once. Afterwards, I'd be looking for a different trainer. Now if you're unable to change trainers and you gotta stick it out, it never hurts to do a second training period. I remember a rookie when I started. I finished my training and was getting ready to get put in a truck. This other fella didn't feel ready to go out on his own. He wanted to stay with his trainer for another month til he got more comfortable with load securement, backing, etc. With the benefit of retrospect, I should have done the same thing. That 1 month of training did not get me all the way ready for flatbed life.

    If you can't get another trainer, stick it out with this one. If you don't feel ready, let your company know that you need more training, but would like to work with someone else. You know yourself. Don't do anything that makes you uncomfortable, that includes this time now with your trainer.
     
  4. CordonBloo

    CordonBloo Bobtail Member

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    Man I appreciate everyone that responded to my thread, thank you so much! I have learned more about what good habits on the road are from all of you in just this thread than anything my trainer has taught me yet. Im going to take everyones tips here and remember them so I can make sure Im safe when I go out on the road solo. I have also laughed out loud at so many of the responses as well. I can tell my trainer is the type thats always the smartest in the room, no matter what room hes in, and as much as I would like to voice my opinions and stick it to my trainer I will take a little more tactful approach. So far its been responding as non confrontational and logical as possible and its caught him so off guard that it has brought him back down a peg. for example when I was backing today and he was telling me I messed it all up, I just responded with " yeah it did mess up didnt it, and I followed all the directions you gave me as best as I could..." I think hes starting to get the hint. Im not trying to be confrontational or even responding with emotion, I can just tell hes not use to someone saying something back. This really feels like a pump and dump situation, where hes gotten so used to having a student to do the driving for him and he just sits back and collects a check. But I will be voicing my concerns with my driver leader, that Im training local routes only and not getting any OTR experience but will be OTR when I am finished. Hopefully they can think of some way to help me gain the actual experience I need. So far I have really just been a long distance yard jockey, moving empty trailers between terminals. I have yet to actually deliver any load and have no idea what the process is for that. So my next question to everyone is:
    Is OTR experience something I can figure out as I go, or should I ask for a specific OTR trainer to actually learn what I will be doing?
     
  5. lual

    lual Road Train Member

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    I had to figure out most of OTR on my own, back at Schneider -- but I had good instructors & reference materials to help.

    It's MUCH BETTER if you can get your carrier to set you up with a very competent OTR trainer -- then go out on the road with said trainer for a minimum of 3 weeks; longer of course is better still.

    During that time: do some mountain driving out west; practice backing up in different truck stops; work on your trip-planning skills (& ask your trainer with any qtns or pblms), & learn where & how to chain up (aka, "slinging iron"). Some winter weather driving while with a good trainer is always a great thing to get -- especially out west.

    Bonus points -- if you do the driving during at least one NYC delivery. Gotta love that parking up in the northeast (NOOOOTTT)!!!

    -- L
     
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  6. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    You really need some time with an OTR trainer.
    As others have mentioned, there is so much that you just can't figure out properly by trial and error. There will be too many errors.
    Trip planning is a big one, especially on runs that take 2 or 3 days.
    You seem like a smart person, and you may only need a week or two with the OTR trainer to learn the ropes. And while you might figure it out on your own, you will be much happier with that training.
     
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  7. CordonBloo

    CordonBloo Bobtail Member

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    Thank you, that's what I was thinking too. If they're there to train me on what to expect, why go through the extra hassle of dealing with this mentor, not learning what I need to, then figuring it out on my own. I applaud everyone that's done it, it seems like such a scary and daunting task learning it out on your own! I'm just so nervous to get out on steep mountains or snow and not know what to do.
     
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  8. CordonBloo

    CordonBloo Bobtail Member

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    You all have been such a massive help, I wish I could thank you all personally. Its nice to know there is this group of knowledgeable drivers out there to ask questions and get opinions from. Thank you all so much!
     
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  9. CordonBloo

    CordonBloo Bobtail Member

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    Thank you for this, I will remember it and be acting accordingly if these situations persist. I appreciate your response very much
     
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  10. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    OTR is not a big deal in my opinion. theres merit to both local and otr. I personally think local is more difficult. OTR drive your 11 hours and park it for 10 and then do it again, so yes you can figure it out, It would be a lot easier to have a trainer that cared.
    But if they don't maybe you would be better off on your own.
    Check the weather, check the truck and trailer, start thinking about fuel around 1/2 a tank this time of year, stay aware of where hte next safe place to stop is, and yes its ok to stop at say 9 hours if theres doubt about the next stop, lopcation, etc.. You just have to make your own call, and learn from it.
    DOnt listem to the chatter in the truckstop, most of its incorrect anyway.
    Also do not use gpogle maps for point to point directions, use a truck gps, google is good for checking out where your going as far as customer location, to see how to get in and out, but not for hghway.
     
  11. CordonBloo

    CordonBloo Bobtail Member

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    I think you may have misread what I was saying.. I didnt respond with "I was taught...." to the situation. I did in fact move over. I was told not to move over for anyone except cops because "cops will pulls us over if we dont move over" by my trainer.. not if we move over.. But I agree with you 100% on people will treat you the way you allow it, and Im not going to allow it. I just wanted to make sure I was not missing something I wasnt aware of.
     
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