I hauled cheap lumber from Maine to the Carolina once this year because it was 10 miles from where I emptied, no tarp and 48k. It also paid 1.57 per mile compared to the usual 1.25. At the shipper, most of the trucks picking up were old crappy hunk of junk, bad tires, rusty trailers, and all owner operators on paper log. I was the only one with Elog and my 2011 Cascadia and my 2015 all Aluminium trailer was the nicest equipment there. Boy was I out of place. Never took another cheap lumber load again. I traveled to the area almost once a week this past 6 months and mostly deadhead out 300+ miles. It is sad that there will always be those who think $1.25 is a decent deal. I hope mandatory Elog will kill off some of these fools since most of them cheat a lot on paper logs.
It is better to Deadhead than take cheap freight
Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by johnnyman1099, Nov 2, 2017.
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It will, won't break my heart at all.spyder7723 Thanks this.
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Still on the load board. It's a tarp load.
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A totally agree with the relativity. Like @Pepper24 said where's the line??? I think if at the end of the day you're paying your bills and making some profit out of it, it's good money and you should haul at that price.
What I think worries most is that O/O that haul "cheap" loads (even though it works for them) are affecting the market for others that consider those payments as low... But what can we do about it????
And another thing is that if you go ahead and DH to another city, nothing guarantees you'll get the best rates when you're there. The market changes so quickly that maybe that DH doesn't work as well as a "cheap" load from where you were initially. -
My experience with the Denver region .
If you want to go east, deadhead.
Other directions you can find ok paying loads. Usually I haul od or partial out of Denver region. (Open deck) -
Seems someone is missing the big picture here when it comes to moving "cheap" freight. Guys that don't want to move it are making a stand and in the end this make things change for all of us. On the other hand you have guys running for peanuts that will eventually falter and the rates will rise back up. It's ebb and flow of a free market. Unfortunately, some cannot see the forest through the trees. I'm fairly certain 99 percent of us can all agree that $1 or so a mile is total BS.
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I am not making a stand. It's all about the money for me. If i could make money with one of those cheap back hauls Is take them and grin all the way to the bank. But it simply never works that way. I always make more money by bouncing to a better area. Every single time I've grabbed that cheap load cause it's going right where i want to go, otr ends up costing me a a good load due to the time dicking around loading, tarping, and unloading.
As for the term cheap freight. I've always defined it as a load that pays less than other loads in the same market. 2 bucks ttt in Cincinnati is insulting dirt cheap. 2 bucks in el paso? Load me up. But i don't care how bad the local market is... you get down under a buck fifty and its not worth dealing with.JimmyWells Thanks this. -
I didn't mean you per se but in general I think most who are making a "stand" would not haul it at all if they're only going to break even. So break even and basically give a free move OR move on to greener pastures and stick it to the con artists in the end.
Yes, 1.50 or so is pushing it for most and 1 dollar isn't even covering operating expenses to those who know how to even calculate that number. Even if they CAN run that low, they surely won't be doing it for long and offering quality dependable service which will ultimately lead to their demise.HalpinUout and spyder7723 Thank this. -
I'm headed to Florida again on an 800 mile run. I'll deadhead all the way back to TN tomorrow when i get empty. I'm not doing it to make a stand and I'm under no illusions that my action in this regard or anyone else doing the same thing is going to change anything with outbound rates from down there. Looking at available outbound loads tells the story here. There is no reason for outbound Florida freight to pay more than a $1 a mile give or take. None whatsoever.bacoman, JimmyWells and spyder7723 Thank this.
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You don't think if enough people stopped pulling those loads the rates would have to go up?
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