It's unbelievable what the feds found in Texas exp.

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  1. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Texas law allows them to file bankruptcy and not lose anything. Remember ENRON. Kenneth Lay I believe.
     
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  3. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    Stick your cursor on the address bar on the top of your monitor, right click/copy. Then go to your post and either right click/paste in the post or click on the little earth icon with a chain link in the post tool bar and right click/paste.

    But I agree with you. Who would allow a fertilizer plant in close proximity to a populated area. There was two schools, an apartment complex, an old folks home and a hospital surrounding it. The gov't has a habit of after the fact law making. I bet there will be more regulations on that industry in the near future.

    They'll probably file bankruptcy and pop up under a new name.
     
  4. Saddletramp1200

    Saddletramp1200 Road Train Member

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    Funny, how one state is on the hot plate. Maine looses a lot of fishermen every year. No body says anything. Their is risk every time you get out of bed. Texas City was one of the worst in U.S. history. Things happen, people die. Look up SS Eastland, The molasses disaster, & others.
     
  5. mickeyrat

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    not just a federal deal. lets make that clear. ALL PARTIES dropped the ball here. Locals say the were stymied by state regs in regards to reporting quanties and access to that info. So there a good place to start.
     
  6. Sly Fox

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    Yes, but when a boat capsizes off the coast of Maine, a portion of a small town doesn't get obliterated.

    We're not talking about THEIR safety, we're talking about the safety of the people that should not have been placed in danger.
     
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  7. larry_minn

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    I assume its similar to my area. Small town had a fertilizer plant by RR tracks. It was well out of town. Thing is the town grew. A housing complex was built (RIGHT ACROSS THE TRACKS FROM IT) and Liquor store, gas station/fast food place half a stone throw away.
    So they had to buy some land 4 miles out for NH3 storage/filling/transfer. I would bet its same thing in TX. The explosion should NOT have happened. Normal fire should NOT set off ANFO (ok doubt any dsl involved in mix) I really want to find out how the heck (even if safety violations happened) how it became this huge a explosion....
     
  8. ironpony

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    In my hometown, Denver Colorado, there was this industrial park called the Rocky Mountain Arsenal, way the heck out in the boonies. That was during WWII. Denver has obviously grown, and we all found out during that time that basin F had become the most polluted few acres in the United States... the accumulated liquid waste of years of nerve gas and pesticide production at the facility. So no one planned it this way, but 40 years later they found a plume of the waste that had leaked out of this basin in the ground water... headed for the northwest boundaries of the facility. So we do a little EPA supersite razzle dazzle mitigation, and it's all good - right? About 10 years ago, some developer bought the land outside of the arsenal boundaries on the northwest margin of the facility. There's housing there now, and families and kids...

    So you can see how this "happens."

    Nobody planned it this way...

    It started as a patriotic war effort with some good jobs, no where near anything except cows and coyotes.
     
  9. Bayle

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    Sell what equipment? The pieces? I suppose there is a scrap metal price.
     
  10. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Yeah, okay... that's it!

    State Senator Donna Campbell, Republican of New Braunfels, said there was “a point at which you can overregulate” companies that store dangerous chemicals and that many large manufacturing companies had their own emergency preparation plans. "I think we’re doing a good job,” she said. “Just periodically something happens that’s not predictable.”

    BOOM!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/10/u...-under-a-jumble-of-regulations.html?src=rechp
     
  11. NavigatorWife

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    You can also go to wikipedia and search for ammonium nitrate and there have been a lot of instances across the world for a hundred years or so where they have had some type of an explosion.


    Processing feed mills are another type plant that can be very dangerous with dust, lights have to be special shielded, silo's can heat due to spontaneous combustion. Things happen and there can be no warning, just the right mix of things.
     
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