JB Hunt - Lowell, Ar.
Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by WiseOne, Feb 26, 2004.
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I will refer you to a thread where this was covered in entirety. I've paid enough of those taxes over the past two decades to know what is and is not legitimate.
This "Fuel Useage Tax", as JB Hunt calls it, of a penny per mile is a farce and a rip-off. It is not levied by any source whatsover but by the company itself. It is a fee that they have conjured up to pad their pockets, and prey upon the unaware.
http://www.thetruckersreport.com/truckingindustryforum/viewtopic.php?t=873&start=0
I refer anyone that begins to question any of this to the thread above. It's all there.....
Sorry Mr. Recruiter....your phone number will be cut from this thread, but if you would like to post an advertisement, you're free to pay for the privilege, and I will not even comment on it. -
I can prove each and every word I have ever offered on the subject to date. On the information that has been posted to date, I am free to prove the source of each and every point that exposes that company for what it is.
I am not free to do the same on what I intend to post in the next week or so, because I promised to not disclose the source of the upcoming information. -
Logging illegally can cost you a weeks worth of pay, your job as a sacrificial lamb, when the company desires to feign ignorance, and it could cost you all that you have worked for, if you are involved in a serious accident, and falsification of that logbook is on the table. -
Do they send you to a school to learn how to snow a driver who calls in?
Oh...yeah....I remember something from the FAQ section, apparently a mistake, but was typed in nonetheless....
Question: After deductions what can I expect my pay to be?
Answer: We do not give an average pay. The reason being drivers will have Different deductions and their miles will vary from week to week. (Note: Never tell a driver a number that will stick in his head and lead to problems for the fleet manager later.)
[Was this a slip-up? The note reads as if it was intended for the recruiter, as an instruction to intentionally avoid this question. No promises. No projected expectations. No nothing. It's intentionally vague, and for a reason. You'll make as little as possible, but maybe enough to keep you around for awhile.]
You know the most pathetic thing here? It's not that JB Hunt is so bad off that they have to recruit drivers. What's utterly pathetic is that they are so bad, that they have to utilize a computerized system to actually CALL people and try to sell the company in an unsolicited fashion. They are not getting enough calls placed to them by people who are genuinely interested in the company....no....they have to be bombarded with calls from the equivilent of telemarketers. It's become entertainment to me, when I pick up the phone on one of those calls.
JB Hunt doesn't have a small dyke leak, where the little dutch boy can come along and keep it plugged until help arrives. The whole DAM must have busted, and dozens and dozens of people are bailing water like mad, and it's still not enough to stop the loss.
Heck...even Swift hasn't taken that tactic, and God help us all if they do.... -
Reply to skullitor:
I encourage you to learn and know the rules and regulations of the commercial vehicle law (both state and federal). However, I don't ever try to quote these rules and regulations directly to my superiors, this would be insulting to them. I do, however, have a very good idea of right and wrong regarding commercial motor vehicle law. All I ask is that my superiors respect my wishes not to be asked, directed or ordered to drive a commercial motor vehicle illegally and unsafely for the sake of saving the corporation a few dollars.
Reply to pjnickles:
Thank you very much for your kind support.
As you suggested, I do keep documents related to my work. In the writing here, there is no way to include all the attachments to reference and support given assertions against JB Hunt. Be aware that I did use this type of support in my formal complaint.
One of the best ways I have found to document the messages I get and send to my superiors by on-board-computer (OBC) qualcomm is a digital camera. A digital camera can be purchased fairly inexpensively and is quite useful. I often times take pictures of the OBC incoming and outgoing messages before they disappear from on-board memory storage. This activitity helps me document messages and requests that are adverse or suspect. I also encourage the use of digital cameras for documenting damage to trailers that you may pickup to show the original condition, damages to loads carried (at shipper or receiver) and other useful information that is needed (a picture record sometimes does tell a thousand words and is quick and easy to store on a personal computer).
I do not record telephone conversations, however, owing to the "tangle" of state and federal laws on the subject and the potential that this activity
would be found to be a violation of state law(s) in the various jurisdictions that I travel through. I do use my cellphone bill to document the time of the call and take notes by hand to help document the type and specifics of the conversation.
Regarding the length of the orginal post, I apoligize for being extremely verbose. Since the text makes up the majority of material submitted to the US Department of Labor (USDOL) to further my Surface Transportation Assistance Act complaint of employment discrimination against me by the JB Hunt corporation, I basically copied the text verbatim from my original complaint to the USDOL. I did this with the idea that someone, somewhere, someday, in the future, may wish to see and use this example in a potential employment discrimination action against JB Hunt or another transportation services company.
As you correctly surmise and as I believe too, the transportation services business interests tend to plan and collude together to keep their employees from banding together for their mutual defense and employment negociations. Therefore, the modern driver is at a very strong disadvantage regarding standing up and saying "NO" to an illegal order given by an trucking company employer. An individual that makes "waves" is seen as not being a "team player" and is marked for summary dismissal at the earliest opportunity. Afterward, the trucking business interest reports adverse language to the DAC and the individual finds that he/she cannot become easily employed within the industry again. The choice is clear, trucking companies require their drivers to perform illegal acts and then do not defend them or admit their role if the driver has "trouble" with the law. Therefore, the driver is left holding the bag. The rub is, a driver either drives illegally and acccepts his/her fate or is fired and blackballed within the industry for making a stand. This is not much of a choice for a man/woman trying to support his/her familiy by professional driving. The biggest problem becomes that such an individual may have very limited employment options for other types of employment outside the trucking industry.
Reply to banshee:
As my writing points out, I refused to drive the truck/tractor further until proper repairs and vehicle inspection were accomplished. If the PA State Patrolman had given me an out-of-service order, he would then have also been obliged to cite me and JB Hunt for operation of a commercial motor vehicle without the proper up-to-date vehicle inspection. This would have probably resulted in very large fines for myself and JB Hunt. I try not to involved "outside" agencies if at all possible when contradicting my employer. I tend to work the internal company chain-of-command and "improve from within". I believe working within a company for change shows overall good intentions of the employee and fairness of "first notice" to my employer. -
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I log it as it happens, PERIOD!! THAT'S IT!! END OF STORY!!
My logs start as soon as I pull on the parking lot. That way, if something were to happen, they can't deny a workers' compensation claim on the basis of not being logged as on duty yet. Protect yourself, people. The company sure as hell does.
As far as Skullitor's statement about upstaging management and quoting the rules to them, it is the drivers job to know any and all rules and regs under which he does his job, not any desk jockey who is quite unlikely to lend you any money to pay any fines you may receive for being stupid enough to break the law. Sometimes, they need to be reminded that you're not some idiot that will drive a truck off a cliff simply because you were told to do so.
Hey Turbo, tell him the story about the guy in Georgia who was held responsible for an accident that happened while he was in bed sleeping and his truck was parked in the driveway. That one should be a sobering reminder for anyone who cheats on his logs. -
If one guy won't do the job, legal or otherwise, they'll simply get some other sap to do it, and the first driver now has a bullseye on his back. -
Reply to Burky:
Point well taken.
Reply to Mach E-6:
As you rightly point out, "creative" logging of driver time can be a "slippery slope". A fudge on logged time may cost an individual significantly at some point down the road. I am in complete agreement with you: Log It As Happens. Period.
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