Joe & Tow's new trucking adventures/ex GTI thread

Discussion in 'Discuss Your Favorite Trucking Company Here' started by joseph1135, Mar 3, 2014.

  1. HeartofaTrucker

    HeartofaTrucker Light Load Member

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    I've never known people to not make hasty changes in this industry, whether it was a smart decision or not. If anything, people are a little too quick to move on to another company in many cases, in my opinion.
     
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  3. Air Breeze

    Air Breeze Heavy Load Member

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    Out of several thousand drivers how many have been driving with that company for millions of miles? How many drivers do you send thru your
    orientation every year. How many quit before they are there for 2 years? How long does the average
    driver work for you before they quit? What are the
    three most common reasons drivers quit working?
    What is the actual average miles per week they get paid to drive? Why dont you pay practical miles? Why use HMG miles? Why dont you pay your drivers for sitting in the inspection lane for hours?
    Why dont you give your drivers a list of what they
    are supposed to be paid for there extra detention
    time when they go thru orientation? Why not?Because its very profitable to cheat your drivers
    out of money you owe them.
     
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  4. HeartofaTrucker

    HeartofaTrucker Light Load Member

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    It is very clear what is paid right from the beginning. Just because a company pays for this or doesn't pay for that doesn't mean that they are cheating the driver. There is nothing but the highest of integrity in the payroll process. Every company's arrangement of how they pay is different. Heartland made a decision years ago to simplify the process and just pay a high rate (the highest rate in the industry) to cover for all the little incidentals that come up, so everyone doesn't have to keep track of every little thing, just pay high enough to make sure it is covered. What really matters is what your W2 shows at the end of the year. have said before, the average of all system drivers is $57K, average of regional is around 52k depending on the regional, and the higher end is in the 70's. yes, it is just an average, and not everyone makes that. but for every person who makes less than that there is someone who also makes more than that. $57K a year, or $75K a year, might not be attractive to each and every person depending on circumstance, but I would hardly call it slave labor or cheating.. to those who say you can't get miles, again, whether that is true or not, the pay at the end of the day is what matters is it not?
     
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  5. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    I don't make the CPM Heartland drivers make, but I consistently make more than them. Granted, these are people I know. But the low miles are the kicker. You can pay the highest CPM in the industry (which you don't, but I digress) but at the end of the day if your drivers are sitting waiting for loads or sitting at terminals waiting for "repairs", what good is that high CPM? When driver after driver tell the same story about having to sit at terminals or waiting all day for loads, you have to start wondering. As I said, I don't wish you guys any ill will and hope that your success continues. But I look at this from a driver's perspective. You're here towing the company line repeating the advertisements. Please don't take offense to that, but that's how it looks from the driver's seat. And it's a shame that my other thread got locked, we had a lot of interesting conversations there, but one couldn't resist to spew his garbage all over it.
     
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  6. Air Breeze

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    No it was never clear from the begining just what
    was paid for. The payroll department does not approve any extra pay. That is deciced by the terminal manager or someone higher up the chain. But first your fleet manager must submit it
    for you. Some do, most wont. Heartland is a cheesy company. I never heard anything good about it before I went to work for them. The only reason I finally drove for them was the high CPM
    So you claim your average driver makes $52000
    per year? Nothing but pure BS. That means your
    average driver must gross $1000 a week or more.
    With the average miles you give to your drivers it aint never gonna happen. Oh im sure some drivers
    make that much but I think $40000 or less is more
    realistic. And for the way you run your drivers it aint worth ruining your health for. No doubt you wilbe in business for many years to come but it will catch up with you sooner or later. Do you recall what happened to Crete 7 years ago down
    in Florida?
     
  7. HeartofaTrucker

    HeartofaTrucker Light Load Member

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    Air Breese, That IS the average that drivers make. that is not recruiting and not an advertisement, but a simple calculation on all the W2's and FACT. sorry if it doesn't match your assessment.

    High miles or not, someone tell me who does pay a higher CPM in the industry? I'm not aware of anyone that does.
     
  8. popcorn169

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    Not a Heartland or Gordon driver and this is not my thread so I apologize if I make someone upset but I have a friend who went to work for Heartland and he was there for a while then he quit because all he did was short trips and would not get any extra pay and he just got tired of it and left. Had issues with truck and could not get that worked out either.

    As stated by Joseph you can have the highest pay per mile in the industry but if you don't give the driver the miles to go with it don't mean squat.

    Tow and Joe sorry if I posted out of line.
     
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  9. tow614

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    Preach On Popcorn ....
     
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  10. tow614

    tow614 Road Train Member

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    I have a new nickname for HOAT.... it's" Baghdad Bob"... if you remember when the American Troops were invading Iraq and marching down the streets of Baghdad.. old Bob was on Iraqi TV telling everyone that there were no American soldiers anywhere in Iraq and everything was fine.....
     
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  11. Jrdude5

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    HOAT your post of average pay is exactly how heartland floods Craigslist with there recruitment ads.
     
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