John Christner Rude to Drivers!!

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  1. Lonewarrior

    Lonewarrior Light Load Member

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    Well said and while I never leased/owned or ever would you can copy and paste these agreements between all the big companies and the sign reads "WE WILL SCREW YOU!" if one has common sense that is.
     
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  3. tambam8

    tambam8 Bobtail Member

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    My ex husband drove for JCT in 2004 and the company was very good to us. He was under their lease program and we did make money. I have to agree that your success depends on you. I am now married to another driver and he too is successful in his career even tho he is not an owner operator. If you have the good driving record and can prove yourself and show them you want to be successful you will be. Everyone has complaints about companies in one form or another. Each driver is an individual so what may be okay for you may not be for another. I have been around this industry most of my life and I have seen drivers succeed and drivers fail.
     
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  4. Lonesome

    Lonesome Mr. Sarcasm

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    I hope your "petation" works out for you......
     
  5. crzyjarmans

    crzyjarmans Road Train Member

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    I drove for them for 5 years, never had this experience, only reason i left is there was an illness in the family, I know many drivers there, and have to call BS, Some drivers lease a truck and then think there an OO, sorry but this is not true, ITS A LEASE, you cant do what ever you want with the truck, Then they want to dictate what they are going to do, I saw a new hire when I was still there, try and tell them that sence he's is an "OO" now, He was going to the dealership to have the truck turned up to a Triple digit, and do this and that and this, When all of a sudden?, OH no your not!!!!, now all of a sudden, this company is a joke!, there ##### holes, they dont treat there drivers good!, BLAH BLAH BLAH
     
  6. Niteshay

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    Can we say bad english !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. jack5

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    Have any of you that went for the fleece-purchase actually sat down and did the math? I was an O/O for 8 years and never did a fleece-purchase. One big reason most drivers go for fleece purchase programs is because they want to be an O/O and have their own truck. Now here is my question? WHY do you want to have your own truck? Better money? More freedom? For me those were the 2 reasons. A fleece-purchase program offers NONE of that. There is NO freedom and certainly there isn't more money to be made than what a company driver getting paid over .40cpm with benefits with a good carrier makes. The whole point of being an O/O is to have the freedom to dictate how you want to run and how long you can afford to take time off for without being bound and dictated by stupid company policies. However with that freedom comes a few sacrifices. My point is that if you don't have enough capital,credit,or down payment buying a truck on your own than leasing one thru a carrier is a WASTE of time. You would save more as a company driver with the same freedom and less stress than what a fleece purchase program offers. As a company driver you have the freedom to walk away from the company when they turn sour without having to deal with an expensive lease. With a fleece program you are more bound by how many miles the company wants you to average every week or every month. Most of these programs are not designed for success. The reason I wanted to be an O/O was so I could work smarter instead of harder. Not the other way around. Nowadays if you have fair credit you can get into your own truck with less than 7k down and your payments will be under 1100 a month.
     
  8. Trudger

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    OK....As some already know, I recently fell victim to the con artist that I call John Christner. I'm not black, and I was treated rudely too by John Mallory. Since this happened, I've been making numerous phone calls and doing a lot of legal research about the scam operation there known as the dreaded lease purchase program.

    One of the things I'm doing is filing form SS-8 with IRS for a mis-classification of employee status. As it turns out, the IRS and the federal government have very specific tests to determine if one is an independent contractor (as the lease/contract states) or an employee. After reviewing the tests carefully, John Christner Trucking (JCT) FAILS the test by over 89%! In other words, the way the contract is written (their lawyers suck), and the way that the JCT staff operate, manage and dictate, makes me fall under the employee status. Here is what I'm going to do....when the IRS and Tax Court investigate and make this same determination (I will help them to no end), not only will JCT have a lot of back taxes to pay (withholding, Social Security, Unemployment, penalties and interest, etc), but I'll be going after them for ALL monies deducted from my earnings that they should have paid for, not an employee! (Fuel, truck payments, insurance, qcomm, etc, etc.)

    Here is the simple truth=The ONLY choices you can make as an "IC", are the route you take and where you fuel. They direct everything else, micro-manage the crap out of you and they don't even allow what ALL leases do...arbitration or mediation either. They will tell you that you have NO recourse against them...ha! I'm just ONE person...now if all the drivers that got screwed over did these same things, or even the ones still in the program and having issues with JCT, we'll all get our money back and JCT will be forced to re-think their lease and the way they treat their EMPLOYEES!
     
  9. daddy&mama2go

    daddy&mama2go Light Load Member

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    actually responding to the quoted quote.

    John Mallory is an uneducated person doing an educated person's job. Thus, the results. Unfortunately, most of the office staff at JCT falls under this description. We have been with them for 3+ years and am now looking at other options. The somewhat integrity and professionalism of the company has disappeared.

    We brought our truck over to JCT so we don't need to worry about the lease screw over. But it's like this:

    I don't want to argue with anyone for a team load. I don't want to argue with anyone when I refuse to repower a load because it is not beneficial to me. If I do take a repower, I expect to be compensated. ie...Give me a good load upon delivering the repower.
    And I especially don't want to hear newbies telling me they've just spent the past 10 months going back and forth from Colton, CA to Florida. We have no lates, no accidents, no incidents, and take your crappy repowers, why are the newbies treated better than the proven?
     
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