Just a random question on hours of service in CA

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  1. BigpopperRunner

    BigpopperRunner Light Load Member

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    How does the hours of service work for local vs OTR work? I know we have to log in everything on the ELD. Thanks!
     
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  3. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    If you have the short haul exception, ie no more than 12 hours on and relieved of duty at the same location as you started, then you are exempt from record of duty status, RODS, the graph in the log book. You go over 12 hours or outside 100 air miles, then you need to log it as you did it. You still are subject to the HOS except the 30 minute break, but in reality, if you're short haul under 100 air miles, you will not be doing over 11 hours driving.
     
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  4. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    I'll let a California driver answer the hours question. I'll just make a point most people don't know.

    The difference in Intrastate and Interstate shipments.
    Intrastate the shipment has to be 100% in state. Doesn't matter the driver stays in state, it's the shipment that matters.
    I.E. A container from the L.A. ports to say San Diego is still Intrastate as it crossed state lines even if the driver never did.
     
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  5. Numb

    Numb Crusty Curmudgeon

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    I'm licensed intrastate. in NC.

    retired and no med card.

    must stay in state ,but can deliver loads from other states,I pick up in state. I.E.containers
     
  6. pavrom

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    I had intrasate CDL 5 years ago because i didn't submit medical card . I picked a load in WI and was going to bring it to my yard in Illinois , original destination was CA . i was pulled off on the weight station in wisconsin ( i hold wi cdl ) and been placed out of service . Officer explained me that i cant touch interstate load no matter even if its moved in Wisconsin .
     
  7. pavrom

    pavrom Road Train Member

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    ...i had medical card at the time of inspection ... Still didn't let me go , had to submit it to DMV
     
  8. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Not legally you can't.
    What is the difference between interstate commerce and intrastate commerce?
    If you perform trade, traffic, or transportation exclusively in your business’s domicile state, this is considered intrastate commerce.

    If your trade, traffic, or transportation is one of the following, this is considered interstate commerce. Source: 49 CFR 390.5.:

    • Between a place in a state and a place outside of such state (including a place outside of the United States)
    • Between two places in a state through another state or a place outside of the United States
    • Between two places in a state as part of trade, traffic, or transportation originating or terminating outside the state or the United States

    What is the difference between interstate commerce and intrastate commerce?
     
  9. Numb

    Numb Crusty Curmudgeon

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    I stand corrected;

    as per NCDMV manual

    1.2.1 –Interstate or Intrastate Commerce Do you, or will you, use a CDL to operate a CMV in interstate or intrastate commerce?Interstate commerce is when you drive a CMV:From one State to another State or a foreign country;Between two places within a State, but during part of the trip, the CMV crosses into another State or foreign country; or Between two places within a State, but the cargo or passengers are part of a trip that began or will end in another State or foreign country.Intrastate commerce is when you drive a CMV within a State and you do not meet any of the descriptions above for interstate commerce.If you operate in both intrastate commerce and interstate commerce, you must choose interstate commerce
     
  10. roshea

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    And THAT is the reason Hawaii has Interstate highways
     
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