Just some of the stupid things I see

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by dieselbear, Jan 31, 2010.

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  1. lonewolf4ad

    lonewolf4ad Road Train Member

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    G, don't you know that vandalism usually happens when you're in the truckstop? HINT HINT
     
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  3. American-Trucker

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    I've used Personal Convieance to go 3.5 hours......home




    American Trucker
     
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  4. misterG

    misterG Road Train Member

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    I had heard that...Wolf, except I'm local only. Seldom outside a 50 mile radius. That's right, I said 50 MILES. So, I'm always back at the yard to end my shift, or at worst I park the truck in my driveway for a night.
     
  5. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    I'm an owner op. If I had to run ELOGS I would use PC to get to the house even if it was 10 hours or a truck stop or restaurant if it took 400 miles to get to the first one. I will not be trapped in some lot somewhere or on the side of the road.
     
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  6. Injun

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    Where ever I want to take it. The rules are unladen (empty) and not under dispatch (unpaid.) If those conditions are met and I want to drive from where ever I am released from duty to where ever I choose to go, I am off duty. I might be in Atlanta, released from duty and want to go home to the NorthWest because my daughter is getting ready to have a baby...or just because I want to go home. If I am unladen and not under dispatch, I am within the law. It's my truck. It's up to me where it goes.


    That said, if I was going to be off duty for that amount of mileage, I would most likely place placards over my DOT numbers saying "Private Coach: Not For Hire." This should avoid any confusion.
     
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  7. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    This is what I was trying to say but couldn't come up with the words. Lol.
     
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  8. chalupa

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    That's generally not available to co. drivers as a rule D.B. and most tanker outfits I've been with limit this to "reasonable".

    Being said : that is described ( by safety ) as only what's needed like get home from terminal, wash clothes, local Walmart for supplies and 20 miles is a number thrown around allot.

    It's always been forbidden to take any trailer with you...for any reason for at the least could / would be used against the carrier in court if an accident occurred AND it suggests to the LEO you're working thereby voiding the PC rule.

    I use it bobtail only and keep it under 50 miles round trip which I think is "fair". Other have pulled empty clean tank wagons to their destinations to prevent theft and tampering however I maintain Mr. Leo could consider that "under dispatch" and cite you.

    JMO
     
  9. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    The key questions are: What's the purpose of moving the vehicle? And To whose benefit is this vehicle move?

    Answer those questions and you will be able to determine whether it is on or off duty.
     
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  10. dieselbear

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    Well here is what I had. Unladen driving over 1000 miles. Took a load and dropped it and was on his way back to his home area. Stated personal conveyance. I asked what was his purpose in heading back home. He stated, " To get another load." driver had drove over 1000 up, got unloaded and was headed back, out of hours and wanted to use the personal conveyance. Many are right there is no mileage limit set as of yet in the US, Canada has a mileage limit of approximately 50 miles. The regs state "short distances" for food, rest. The way I understand the regulations this driver is just headed back to pick up another load and run straight thru again.
     
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  11. Injun

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    That was not personal conveyance. He was moving the vehicle to pick up freight. Deadheading to a pickup is on duty driving. It was not to his personal benefit. It was to the benefit of his business entity. This makes those miles "dispatched" miles. He was under dispatch.

    If you shut him down, you made the right call, in my opinion.
     
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