Just some of the stupid things I see

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  1. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    If the shipper doesn't have the right placards, don't leave the property, simple as that.
     
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  3. L.B.

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    Bingo!!! Placards are the responsibility of the shipper.
     
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  4. Tazz

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    I picked up from an Office Max dc in Memphis for one of our customers. 6 55 gal drums of floor stripper (IIRC) and they just had some little MSDS sheet about it being hazardous and no placards.

    When I told them:

    A:It had to be conspicuous on the BOL
    B:properly identified and labeled
    C:placarded(Nope they didn't have them either)

    The lady looked at me and I quote

    "We are not a Hazmat shipper so we do not have to do it that way."

    Told her

    "Your #### right but it is gonna be that way or I'm not hauling it"

    Customer(Ours!) Said there was no hazmat on there so just go with it??????


    I wonder who they ever got to haul it? See Scalemaster we get stupid stuff too
     
  5. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Not everything that has an MSDS is hazmat. Unless you can find the substance in here:
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    ...you probably don't need placards.
     
  6. lovesthedrive

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    Depends primarily on if it is reportable. If it is not reportable, you are not required to have a placard.
     
  7. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    Yes it was reportable amount, yes it was in the guidebook.

    But yeah there are times that hazmat can be on a load without hazmat endorsement or placards. Alot of our Nissan loads have small amounts (10 to 100lbs ) of HM. They still have to list it on BOL as HM and make it conspicuous.
     
  8. Scalemaster

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    Wrong book. Many items may not be found in the ERG.

    You need to check the tables in this book:
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  9. CondoCruiser

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    What was the UN number? Like Pedigreed said, just because it has a MSDS doesn't mean it's hazmat. The lady could of looked at the inbound bills if there was any questions.

    A lot of commercial wax strippers they add ammonia to it on the job site. The actual product might or might not be hazmat depending on whether it's premixed or not.
     
  10. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    Don't remember Butyl something or another. To long ago and frankly couldn't care enough to remember beyond telling safety about it the next morning.
     
  11. wis bang

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    One section on an MSDS is the proper DOT shipping description.
    Non Haz Mat will say it is not regulated by the DOT!
     
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