I ran the PA turnpike Friday and 2 different trucks before 2 different tunnells had Hazmat placards on the, both were Flammibal?? I choose not to spel corecty. I thinks that kind of illegal. I did it once myself, it was raining hard and I didn't feel like going around and didn't feel like pulling the placards. I kinda figured a bear wouldn't like nailing me in the rain.
Just some of the stupid things I see
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Depends on the qty they are carrying. If in bulk with an UN number then yes, they cannot go through the tunnels. What you saw were flammable placards and not in bulk.
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Yeah I seen where it was the driver that screwed up. It is amazing how many people either do not know or just do not care when it comes to placards. I have seen at my job where 1or2 drivers before me have had a trailer and pulled them with the wrong placards. I watch it carefully because I do not want to be the person that can tell you exactly what the fine is. I have heard what you said 250 - 2500 per placard.
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Back when i was with schugel, i got dispatched on a load of "bread making ingredients". On top of that, they stuck 2 pallets of hm, one flammable, the other, corrosive. They handed me the placards, which were the correct ones, and both were reportable quantities, but when i got the BOL, thats when the fun started. Not only did the load originate in southeastern MO, but it was going to hershey, pa, and i barely had the hours for it, not to mention i was supposed to go home after that, and they expected me to drive home even after my 70 was up. The paperwork only specified "bread making supplies", and th hm column was marked, but no separate listing of the hazardous materials, no un number, packing group, nada. When i brought it up to the shipper, i was advised to "take the #### load or we'll pull it off!". A call to the broker got the same response, and when i called schugel's safety guy, he didnt even know what the regulations were, and dispatch informed me to just go with the load! So i headed east bound, got as far as east of columbus when the ohio PUC hazmat wagon yanked me over. Luckily he just wrote the violation against the shipper, and the company had me drop it at the yard and gave me a more legal load home. No wonder i dont miss hauling
hazmat.
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I imagine the Feds levied a huge fine on the shipper, maybe the carrier also. They see "un-declared hazardous materials" as a very serious violation.
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Hmm I thought flamable and corrosive were illegal to be transported with "human consumption" loads? The notion that the hm will affect the "human consumption" load being in an enclosed space.
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A lot of artificial flavorings contain alcohol...a flammable HM
Phosphoric acid, a corrosive HM is in every soda you drink.
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CO2 in soda , peroxide in tooth paste and soap and the list goes on.....all HM in proper quanities.
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Creamora... the stuff you dump in coffee. It's hazmat.
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I remember back in the 90's bulk CO2 use to not be hazmat and then they made it hazmat. I was working at CocaCola then. But soft drinks it's not reportable.tim33595 Thanks this.
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