Just some of the stupid things I see

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by dieselbear, Jan 31, 2010.

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  1. Jolsen

    Jolsen Heavy Load Member

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    Mr. DB I have a question that maybe you can shed some light on. I know that when you have a permit in order to drive the truck you must have someone with a valid cdl also in the truck correct? So when you go to take your cdl driving test in the state of GA. None of the testers at the Albany site have a cdl. So how is this even legal? I understand they are testing me. But how can I even legally drive with just them in the truck if they don't have a cdl. This just seems all kinds of wrong. I mean if you can't legally drive a semi. How can you even test me on how to do something you can't do yourself? I have been wondering this for a long time how they get away with this malarkey.
     
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    Can you imagine the lawsuits If someone were to get into an accident while testing for your cdl?
    It would be an ambulance chasers wet dream! No licensed cdl holder in a truck???

    I really wanna hear the answer to that question!!!
     
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    Yepper, it'll also promote any blackiron pipe, or cast iron to start corroding VERY quickly.
    And dopey me, that was anhydrous, not aquaeous, that I unloaded. We made it back into aquaeous.:biggrin_25525:
     
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    I am not an expert on the question, but consider this. Since the testers/inspectors at The Ga. DMV are not involved it interstate transportation they only have to comply with Ga. state law. It may be totally different than any federal regulations and provide for the exception.
     
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    So in other words, it is a goobermint thing!

    Special dispensation!:biggrin_25514:
     
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    Oh come on now. Nobody would ever do that, would they?:biggrin_2559:

    Government. A wonderful thing. . .:biggrin_25513:
     
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    Raezzor Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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    I believe there's an exemption in the regs for testers being in the cab. I'd look it up right now, but I'm tired and need sleep for more orientation frivolity and frolicing tomorrow. Yay, load securement! Anyway, I'll look in the regs and see if I can spot anything relevant.

    Just as a disclaimer, I'm not saying 100% for sure it's legal for testers to not have a CDL, just that I might have read something pertaining to state testers being exempt from the requirement.
     
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    I never had to take a driving test to get my CDL (grandfathered) but the only explanation to your question is that states grand these road test people certain powers, regardless if they have ever driven a largecar. They go off what they were taught in a classroom and apply it from the passanger seat. It reminds me of corperate America today - the ones in charge and in supervisory roles have never done the work of those they are in charge of. I have more miles in reverse than these road testers will ever have sitting next to the left door and hell I bet I'd fail the driving test judgements from some of them....LOL!!
     
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    Raezzor Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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    Found the reg on tester requirements. It's actually pretty lax, all things considered. Here's the link to the FMCSA site for it.

    §383.131 Test procedures.
    (b) Examiner procedures. A State shall provide to test examiners details on testing and any other State-imposed requirements in the examiner's manual, and shall ensure that examiners are qualified to administer tests on the basis of training and/or other experience. States shall provide standardized scoring sheets for the skills tests, as well as standardized driving instructions for the applicants. Such examiners' manuals shall contain the following:
    (b)(1) Information on driver application procedures contained in §383.71, State procedures described in §383.73, and other appropriate driver information contained in Subpart E of this part;
    (b)(2) Details on information which must be given to the applicant;
    (b)(3) Details on how to conduct the tests;
    (b)(4) Scoring procedures and minimum passing scores;
    (b)(5) Information for selecting driving test routes;
    (b)(6) List of the skills to be tested;
    (b)(7) Instructions on where and how the skills will be tested;
    (b)(8) How performance of the skills will be scored; and
    (b)(9) Causes for automatic failure of skills tests.


    Relevant part bolded and in red.
     
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    So I guess those that couldn't make it as truck drivers may have a career as a CDL examiner!!! That explains the poor attitude of some of those people.:biggrin_2559:
     
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