Maybe find a decently priced one from Greatwide.
Sometimes will help with the down payment.
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I’m not saying what trucks are listed for. That truck you’re looking at is looking at a minimum 60K first year in repairs most likely. If not more.
if you don’t plan on going to California I would suggest a 01-03 pre egr truck atleast. -
Rigdig report and have someone do a data dump from the onboard computer to look for problems with the engine .
Along with the mentioned dyno and blow by test and oil lab test.
if the truck runs ok but needs tires and brakes and belts and hoses , that’s $10k right there.
If you’re not running California , get an older pre emission truck . the egr and def and DPF are very expensiveJoeyJunk Thanks this. -
a 10 yr old truck with 1,000,000 mi, thats about 100,000 mi/yr. Which says to me an O/O driving solo. Which could be a good thing. Is this truck from a pvt party or a dealer ? Maybe previous owner had an inframe at 700K ? Do you have records ? Also, pulling gross weights VS. light loads makes a difference.
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Unlike others, I will advise you to stay exactly where you are at until trucks start hitting the market from repos and other failures, you don't want to be a failure.
The other reason is we are at the beginnings of a recession, and expecting the housing market or the tech sector to take a huge down turn in 2023 thanks to the government - no other comment about that.
The truck you are talking about will need about $4000 to $8000 to make it road worthy and to mitigate any immediate breakdowns. A solid $10k investment may be needed to get the emissions straight if there is a problem because parts are at a premium and many places don't have the parts in stock.
This truck is for people who have expereince with owning trucks with constant troubles, not for newbies.
AND when you do find a good deal, a dyno/blowby test is needed to tell you what the internal condition of the engine is in and how much rated HP it is producing. You will need an entire ECM dump to tell you about the settings and problems it has had. You will need all the fluids analyzed and you will need a competent mechanic who will tell you everything that is wrong with the truck.
AND I am going to stress these a few points to help you and others.
1 - A Blowby test IS NOT WATCHING FOR VAPORS COMING OUT OF THE ENGINE LIKE MANY THINK, THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS. A Blowby test measures the internal pressure of the crankcase at peak HP/Torque/RPMs UNDER A LOAD to see what gets by the rings under pressure. Every engine manufacturer has tested every model of engine to find the number that indicates the engine's time to have new rings.
2 - Oil analysis is important even if the oil has been changed. Running the truck for a few hours and sucking up the bottom of the pan to pull the sample will still show problems within the engine.
3 - DO NOT TRUST AN ANNUAL DOT INSPECTION AS THE NEEDED INSPECTION. Many mechanics can not actually do a proper inspection, and it is just a formality so get a real inspection done by a mechanic being paid to find problems, it won't be a 40 minute inspection but maybe a few hours.InTooDeep, Rideandrepair, 88 Alpha and 2 others Thank this. -
All good advice by ridge line
And again, if you’re not running California , I’d find a truck with no DEF or any of that garbage .
not sure if anyone has brought up the business end of it .
Do you have a customer ?
With independent freight?
Please tell me you’re not going to be hunting loads from load boards and brokers .
you getting your own MC and insurance or running under someone else’s ?
Does the biz that owns the MC have independent customers ?
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I’m with the majority on this one. Wait a bit. Keep looking and learning about different Trucks, engines, transmissions and probable emission problems for each. Right now Truck prices are starting to drop. In the past, they’ve dropped as much as 40%. As more repossessions pile up, prices will drop across the board. Certain Dealerships will capitalize on the trend, and sell Trucks cheaper, relying on volume. Often they’ll have new tires, and been inspected and brought up to par. More importantly is knowing what kind of work you’ll be doing, and buying an appropriate Truck for the job. Time is on your side. Keep learning, narrowing down what you want, and what prices are. You’ll be ready to buy when you don’t need to ask opinions of others. You’ll know. Just keep looking and pricing. You’ll know when the right deal is found. Always wait a few days before making a decision. Even if you miss one deal, there’s always another good deal right behind it.
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