Kevin Rutherfrauds $200000 Signature glider truck has complete engine failure!!!

So you would like to see what exactly as quantifiable proof a bypass filter works? Being serious as I think you have a valid point. Is a reduction in soot levels proof enough or should we be looking for more? What about other contaminants? I suspect you'd have to run for 50 to 75,000 miles without a bypass and collect the numbers from even speedco.

Or would we be looking for the total base number? Again, not poking the fire, but what exactly are we looking for as far as proof is concerned?

 

Why wasn't the bypass system picked up by the truck manufacturers and made stock OEM?

 

Cost? Why don't they install automatic greasers? They don't make money on a truck that doesn't break down and need parts and labor.

 

I asked the guys at Filtration Solutions this and they said they asked CAT about a joint venture like DAVCO being put on new trucks. CAT's response was, "if we wanted our engines to last longer, they would."

Bwahahahaha, now I gotta go get me some curb feelers.

 

So the guys who sell the filters had a clever little story making fun of the OEM engine makers for not putting their product on ? truly amazing, it's almost as if they were trying to make you want to buy it or something....

 

Its not really poking fun. For years energy efficient technology has been suppressed to benefit the shareholders of big oil. They don't want to sell a motor that can run millions of miles without needing a rebuild. Nor do they want super fuel efficient motors. It's about profit. Nothing else. Planned obsoletism.

 

millions of miles ? when that starts happening I'll buy one. the tests I saw some engines had good results, some not so good. But there was no baseline. The ones that did well and kept testing clean may have tested well without the bypass filter. The ones that were getting dirty anyway kind of troublesome. How do you say the thing works when it wont clean the oil in a dirty engine ?

Look, it's a brilliant product from a sales standpoint. The engine is already protected, and the oil is already filtered. If the engine fails no one would ever hold the bp filter responsible, there's zero accountability and zero liability with the thing. They sell it as if it's additional insurance, extra fine filtering. Then they encourage extended intervals which is additional risk. makes no sense, you want cleaner oil so you put another filter, but then the one thing you can do yo make sure your oil gets clean is change it, and that you stop doing. very progressive.

 

Like I asked earlier, what would be quantifiable proof? I don't remember exactly what the micron size the main filter filtered to. 30 microns? And a bypass filter goes down to 3 (I think). It was also pointed out that the main filter will trap some particles smaller than what it's rated for. Ok so far. Now see if this makes sense. From the time you do an oil change till you change the oil at whatever interval you choose, both filters are working keeping the oil clean and hopefully soot and contaminate free. Now this protection happens throughout the duration of your interval. What you are comfortable with is only having clean oil for about a week or so. Clean is defined as contaminate free. The main filter doesn't and wasn't designed to filter the really tiny stuff. Only the tiny stuff. Now granted if you dump the oil every 12 or 15,000, the amount of really tiny stuff is probably going to be small, but it's still gonna be there.

I asked you what would be quantifiable proof that a bypass worked earlier. How about proof that it doesn't work? Just had a thought. What if a guy was to cut open a bypass filter after say, 30,000 miles to actually see what the element looked like?

Please don't think that I'm on the attack. Far from it. I'm trying to learn here. All I know is that the guys running them AND have their oil analyzed, are saying that the soot levels drop. And that's just the soot levels. What about them old style spinners that sling all the crud against the container wall? And then you'd have to scrape all the junk out? Now here's the pondering part. If the main filter was really all that good, where'd the crud come from? Something to think about.

 

The "crud" comes from not being properly maintained. Oil change intervals stretched to far, overhead not being ran, etc. My last truck I changed the oil every 15,000 miles, no additives, no bypass filter, at 1,001,600 I had it inframed. There were NO deposits in that engine, sludge or otherwise. The only reason that I had it inframed is because one of the oil rings was weak and it started burning oil.

Will a bypass filter save you a few bucks? I'm sure they do, but to buy one on the premise that it will make your engine last longer than changing the oil every 15,000 miles is wishful thinking.

 

The filter on the DD15 is a hybrid filter/by-pass. Detroit's recommended oil change interval is 50k for OTR. T/A has a $50 up charge due to the filter.