Kevin Rutherfrauds $200000 Signature glider truck has complete engine failure!!!

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Bobby Barkert, Mar 7, 2015.

  1. wore out

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    I would bet the crank needs polishing at the bare minimum. Just throwing a hillbilly shine on it an new bearings is gonna result in grooves in the new bearings.

    When they are built clean the bearings look new for an extremely long time. The top half of the rod bearing is always the first one to wear. We usually look at a couple then advise the customer from there if a bottom job is truly needed. Those that say a bottom job is cheap insurance cause I just bought the truck should look at those pics. You could go from bearings that still look new with 400K on em to scratched up grooved up mess in a couple miles. Reckon they used a screw driver out of the bargain bin to peck the mains around lol
     
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  3. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Be interesting to hear what PP says about this. I'm sure it's somebody else's fault. I'm sure the owner has more pics, I wonder if he was advised not to share them.

    It'd also be nice to have a deck plate bolted to that block and get accurate measurements of the counterbores, checking to see if they are perpendicular to the cylinder axis. The owner said the block was salvagable, but if they put it together with ####ed sleeves, it will be back apart soon.
     
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    I'm sure PP will say there was contamination or uneven coating in the Microblue, and Microblue will blame PP. Both will say the owner went too far on the first oil change and lugged the engine too low for too long, which I'm sure he did. KR will say everyone else screwed up and not him.
     
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    plant Heavy Load Member

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    Not with an OPS Ecopure KR™©® edition
     
  6. OLDSKOOLERnWV

    OLDSKOOLERnWV Captain Redbeard

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    No doubt it was embedded, and sad thing is....warranty would have covered it and they be back on the road, if someone had'nt taken it apart and screwing with it. Why would anyone run 50,000 miles on the same oil? I don't care what kind of filter you have that is ridiculous.
     
  7. wore out

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    I agree even with that bypass filtration and Schaefer oil that's just too far for me. I still change my ol B at 10K whether it needs it or not. Lube the truck at 5 if not every week. New air filters when the filter minder says they close I don't believe in blowing them out. Our E models I do go to 15k on but try not to go over. We are still using good old rotella. Not arguing that there are better oils but I was raised on it and it hasn't ever cost us a motor that I'm aware of. Seems silly to spend extra specing that truck for fuel millage, doing the drop axle etc then overfilling it with pretty house type things and not changing the #### oil. Are the owners a husband and wife team I wonder?
     
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  8. OLDSKOOLERnWV

    OLDSKOOLERnWV Captain Redbeard

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    Agreed Wore Out. We used Rotella in our drilling rig engines when I was younger, and also in the road trucks. Not that oil wears out, but it gets dirty, I for one don't want jewelers rouge in my engine! As for the truck owners...I'm thinking I saw something on that Facebook stuff indicating they were a couple.
     
  9. Bean Jr.

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    Their info at "Let's Truck" indicates Jeff has 4 years experience. I don't know if it updates every anniversary of joining, and that means he only had 2 years at the time he signed up for this experiment, or he had 4 years then. Either way, very green!
     
  10. ironpony

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    Something tells me his previous experience was in a Cascadia with a DD15. Pulling a grade at 1200 RPM a doesn't lug that engine down, and 50,000 mile oil change intervals are per Detroit's recommended maintenance schedule.
     
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  11. rank

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    Good grief. So now there's a third problem to add to the list........bearing wear.

    Regardless of what caused the liner issue and corrosion, It seems to me that whomever does final assembly on the bottom end takes responsibility for it. If you're the last one to touch it, you own it.

    There is no point in saying it was caused by 50,000 miles without an oil change. PP should take the hit and quick. The best they can do here is turn a negative into a positive and use this as proof that they stand behind their work. Just replace the engine already. I am sure by this point, the o/o's will be happy to get a stock Detroit in there and be back on the road. Then the talking heads can do all the inspection they want on the junk engine.
     
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