Read the book "The Frackers" recently. Very inspirational as some of the founders who started these now huge companies came from very meager beginnings.
One thing that really surprised me is that the CEO of Continental Resources (who happens to be a huge Republican) is very much against the Keystone pipeline. Anyway, if you are looking for a good read (or audio book) check out "The Frackers"...
http://www.amazon.com/The-Frackers-Outrageous-Billionaire-Wildcatters/dp/1591846455
Not sure what will become of the Keystone but with all the oil train derailments it seems silly to argue that trains can do the job better. Also heard an interesting story about how Amtrak is running behind schedule as much as 20 hours in some cases due to all the traffic on the rails from the crude tankers.
Keystone XL Pipeline
Discussion in 'Oilfield Trucking Forum' started by Chibob, Jun 17, 2013.
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Parts of it are finished now and have been for a few years. Other parts are are still waiting final state approval. Crude oil is very corrosive. Tar sand oil is even worse in many ways. There is not just one kind of oil. Some is much easier to handle and refine, some is not. I used to be onboard with the expansion but I could care less now. Why should we as Americans risk our environment for not much gain overall. If we are exporting oil now, do you really think the pipeline is going to bring us more oil. No. It will just be exported too. Some of it may be refined and that will just be less reining capacity for America. And that is the problem now and has been for years. You can have all the crude oil in the world but until you can turn it into a usable product it it useless. And I could give two ##### about any political views. They all lie to suit their needs.
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What I dont understand is why they cant remove the abrasives before it hits the pipeline...seems like there could be an easy pre-treat/filter solution to remove any abrasives. Obviously, I know nothing about it though. I'm sure they would have that well under control by now it it were possible.
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I have had plenty of time to think about this and I have learned a little by working around the oil fields. I think the Canadians should run the pipeline through their own country. The oil is going to be sold to China anyway so I think it should be cheaper for them to ship it from the west coast than from the gulf.
So there must be something very wrong for them to resort to shipping it from the gulf instead of the west coast of Canada. It would be much, much shorter.Derailed Thanks this. -
Part of the plan with the XL keystone pipeline, which is the 3rd pipeline by keystone to cross the border, was to start with the tar sands, which are abrasive, dilute it with North dakota oil, ship it to the refineries along the gulf coast, refine the oil, and ship the refined products to china and India. One has to also consider that there are other major uses for the refined products from crude oil, used in almost all parts of manufacturing today. The canadain tar sands are already being shipped to the gulf coast and other refineries in the US.
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The Keystone Pipeline System is a four-phase pipeline system which transports synthetic crude and diluted bitumen from the Canadian Oil Sands plus crude from Montana and North Dakota to refineries in Nebraska, Illinois and the U.S. Gulf Coast. Phases 1-3 are already in service, with Phase 1 being commissioned in June, 2010. The final phase, the Keystone XL Pipeline, is a second line from Hardisty, Alberta to Steele City, Nebraska.
U.S. National Academy of Sciences: http://www8.nationalacademies.org/o...ademies/na+(News+from+the+National+Academies)
U.S. Department of Energy (DOE): http://www.eia.gov/energy_in_brief/article/foreign_oil_dependence.cfm
The U.S. DOE projects that by 2040, petroleum imports may decrease from 40% to as low as 27%, or as high as 51%, depending on future oil price trends. Projections from the DOE and others are split as to whether the U.S will be truly self-sufficient in the future. Even if it is, U.S. refineries will miss out on the widely accepted projections showing a continued increase in demand for refined products if they do not have access to excess crude products nor the ability to transport them to refineries.
U.S. Department of Energy (DOE): http://www.eia.gov/forecasts/aeo/MT_liquidfuels.cfm#net-imports
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The oil companies make more money if they can get the product to port.
Why WTI crude oil is trading ~$15 per barrel below Brent
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I would say that CEO that is against the pipeline has strong ties with the railroad. As a matter of fact I would say most of your liberals/environmentalist are railroad lobbyist in disguise.
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