No consolation but the gubberment allows this to happen and not to just the trucking industry. Stick it to anyone brought to you by Corporate America, profit above all else.
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"Labor shortage" not only in trucking
Discussion in 'Other News' started by JB7, Oct 31, 2025 at 6:27 PM.
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Great article, the US stock market is yet to reflect what is going on in the real economy, under the H1b program a company would be required to prove that they can not find / hire enough locals to do the job, so laying off thousands of workers would not bode well for any visa application. Under the H1b rule any company wishing to hire a foreign worker must also enroll the future employee in the H1b lottery if their name is selected the DOL then issue the hiring company with a certificate this allows them to file the I - 129 petition for foreign workers with the USCIS who approve the visa applications which are then issued by the US consulate in a country that employee resides in.
The H1b visa or any other work visa is not an avenue for employers to hire cheap labour and employer's must pay the worker the same award rate as any US citizen or legal resident. e.g if a US transport company hired a foreign driver on a H2b visa and the minimum award rate for OTR was $0.35 per mile that would be the minimum the driver could be paid.
However thats not to say an employer could not abuse this system just as they can do with actual US citizens 'by not paying workers, this is where a worker has the right to consult with the DOL, a workplace attorney, a union representative.
The following visas are currently available for foreign workers in the USA H1b, H1c, H2a, H2b, L-1, E-3, R-1, O-1, P-1.Last edited: Nov 1, 2025 at 6:55 PM
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I just want to know how immigrants are undercutting wages. When did Americans actually make a livable wage? Minimum wage is 15 dollars an hour.....the immigrants are undercutting what exactly? 15 bucks an hour isn't ####. Hell 20 dollars an hour ain't #### anymore. I think the focus should be either on raising wages for everyone, or making day to day expenses more affordable.OlegMel Thanks this.
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H1b1 was intended not for foreigners, but citizens working in another state
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Excess labor capacity reduces wages. Look at the excess of drivers and trucks in trucking and what it has done to rates. They undercut wages because many will work for far less, will work 1099 etc. Will live ten to a house or apartment with several in a single room. Like the trucks with 2 or 3 living in the truck with a hole in the floor.
Not that everyone is paid a living or fair wage but the excess/accept anything type exacerbate the problem.rollin coal and drvrtech77 Thank this. -
yes it is,
H-1B1 Program | U.S. Department of Labor
Overview
The H-1B1 program provides for the temporary employment of nonimmigrant aliens in specialty occupations from Chile and Singapore, limited to 1,400 nationals of Chile and 5,400 nationals of Singapore. The H-1B1 program is governed by many of the rules that apply to the H-1B program. The period of employment is one year. Extensions may be obtained twice but only in one year increments. Further extensions can be obtained only with the filing of a new Labor Condition Application.
H1B
What is an H-1B nonimmigrant?
AI Overview
An H-1B non-immigrant is a foreign national granted a temporary visa to work in a "specialty occupation" in the U.S., which typically requires a bachelor's degree or equivalent. The "non-immigrant" status means the individual is in the U.S. for a specific, temporary purpose (employment in a specialty occupation), rather than to live permanently.JB7 and gentleroger Thank this. -
Its not supposed to be a vehicle for companies to obtain cheap labor, but it is.
Rethinking the H-1B Visa Program: A Data-Driven Look at Structural Failures and the High-Skill IllusionJB7 Thanks this. -
$15 hr.? Less than 20 States. Still a few that use the Federal rate. Wages need to increase now, more than ever. They needed to increase in the early 80’s too. The early 2000’s same thing. Instead bubbles burst, Industries died, people lost in many ways. Business likes high unemployment, keeping wages low, and a tight grip on employees. Raising wages almost never happens unless fought for, or out of a shortage of Workers. Low unemployment rates are the only driver of higher wages that’s left. No ones fighting for higher pay. Workers are on their own. Many wanted it this way. Not working out very well. COLA up 100% in 30 years. Average pay up 69%. Out paced by inflation during a time known for low inflation. So 31% + current 3% annual inflation rate. Wages need to increase 34% to match the buying power of Workers in 1996. That isn’t going to happen.Last edited: Nov 1, 2025 at 1:30 PM
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Well....even without immigrants, Americans are still paid poorly. So if every immigrant/alien gets deported, there's still too many trucks on the road, at least on the spot market side. Then what's next? Large amounts of CDLs are still given yearly with these 3 week courses. Its still going to be too be a large amount of trucks on the road, and way more than freight available. The freight ain't there because folks aren't spending. How do you fix that problem?gentleroger Thanks this.
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