Land Star: We don't tell applicants why they weren't qualified

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  1. groundpounder

    groundpounder Road Train Member

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    The rules are a complete joke..
     
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  3. Bugatti

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    But only a handful of folks seem to be unable to work under them. If you don't like the rules, work to change them, ignoring them is not the way to go.
     
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  4. hrdman2luv

    hrdman2luv Medium Load Member

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    Are you joking?

    One night, I fueled up in West Memphis. By the time I got to the east bound TN scales, I had a tire that was leaking air. It wasn't leaking when I fueled up because I checked my tires. And there was still air coming out of one. Not to mention, And airline has started leaking that wasn't leaking when I fueled up. Because I had my hood open and has checked my oil. The airline was the front steer, just under where I checked my oil. So I know it wasn't leaking. And to add insult to injury, when i turned on my lights (just before the scale) one of my visor lights had just went out.
    So when I got to the scales, there was no way I was getting through without an inspection. When I rolled up on the platform and rolled down my window, I could hear the air leaking.

    If you have driven long enough, this stuff happens. And if you throw in the amount of trucks on the road, it probably happens all the time. Just not to one driver.

    So under the new regulations, these things go on a point system, that not only hurts your chances of getting a job or keeping your job, it also give the DOT a reason to say "We're right"..Just look at all the "unsafe trucks" on the road. And just look at how many we've mandated they keep their trucks in safe working order....

    And to guys who support the CSA 2010, that's as far as their thinking capabilities go. But you can't stop there. You have to look beyond what the government says.

    Here's why. Because I'm not going to drive down the road with leaking air in my tires or lines. I'm not going to go down the road with light burned out. When I find something wrong, I get it fixed. Period. End of story.

    But the mentality of the DOT, FMCSA and those drivers that support those agentcies fail to realize that 99% of us drivers care about our lives, the lives of others and our equiptment, alot more than they do.

    And so it's not a matter of being an outlaw. It's a matter of working through problems when they arise.

    Someone driving down the road with bald tires, wires hanging and other things, don't understand, that the driver of the truck, maybe having other problems. He may be going through an expencive divorce. He may be trying to save money to get his kid or wife a life saving operation or cancer treatment. You don't know what's going on. But those that either work for a company, gotten a good contract, or have all their bills paid off, sometimes don't think about what it's like to be going through some hard times. And so therefore you've have a disconnect in how you percieve others. Some people think that everyone should be as well off as them.
     
  5. groundpounder

    groundpounder Road Train Member

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    dude, not all of us are first year n00bs who let these companies push us into dangerous situations....

    for me its real simple, I run hard and when I get tired I sleep..

    my safety record more than backs up my ability to make the right choice I don't need some college boy who never sat day one in a truck to determine whats safe for me..
     
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  6. Bugatti

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    So personal problems now trump the safety of all people on the road? If you can't afford to run safely, by the rules, get off the road.
     
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  7. Bugatti

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    SuperTrucker alert!!!
     
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  8. groundpounder

    groundpounder Road Train Member

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    call it what you like hero.....I do what makes me money and thats the bottom line..

    I'm out..
     
  9. Not pointing fingers or passing judgement here. Just making an observation. Honestly. NOT wanting to pick a fight. Just curious.

    I run 100% legal. I do it because of lawyers and liability, NOT to suck up to anyone or to make myself feel superior. I KNOW i could often completely violate the HOS and be 132% safe on the road. I also know that there are times that I am 149% withing the HOS and have no business on the road. I don't run illegally, or when too tired, though, because I NEVER want some ambulance chasing scum bag lawyer seeing that I'm put in jail, or ruin my business, or my FAMILY. Wrecks happen, it's a sad fact. IF it were to happen to me, I'd HATE to be out of compliance with the HOS. So, it's not Billy Big Rigger Super Trucker Syndrome, or Mr. Goody Two Shoes Perfect Log book for me. It's just self preservation in the unlikely but possible event that something unthinkable happens.

    I hear two things. "I run 100% legal because that's the law." and also, "I run safe. Maybe not legal but safe. I do what makes me money."

    What I don't hear is, "Sorry that it cost you 4.00 a mile to get this here, but with the HOS it takes longer for me to do it now. Everything else cost you more, due to government intervention, so does delivering your load." Why do we tear one another down and argue about who's a better driver or who can run longer when the question should be, WHY aren't the rates moving to reflect new rules? EVERY industry deals with regulation and passes costs along accordingly. Why don't we?

    I have another business besides the truck. Costs have gone way up because of government regulation, changes, and inflation. As such, what I charge has gone up. Not just me, but EVERYBODY in that business, and the public is fine with paying us. We DIDN'T have to fight, scratch, and claw to get it. It was just accepted. They blame the government, just like we do. Why not in trucking?

    Sure, lets argue and beeeotch about the rules, but AFTER we've charged the appropriate rate for the service we provide. Let's quit comparing who's the better or more safe driver. We can do that through cold hard facts and statistics. Why are we one of very few industries that continues to NOT change with the times, except to make only those changes that limit our own revenue generating ability???

    I've been driving for half of the time I've been on this earth. Some days I KNOW I could drive 19 hours. SOme days I'm lucky I went 6. I NEVER exceed 11, though. Those slimy lawyers and big cell mates scare me. I'm sure I'm not a super anything. I'm just trying to make a living within the parameters set for me. Why do we bow down to some portions of the industry and let others walk all over us while engaging each other in vitriolic urination contests?

    I don't get it.

    So that I don't COMPLETELY hijack the thread, I am curious why L/S wouldn't tell this driver why they wouldn't take him. Seems like if it's anything at all, he'd have every right to know. Even if it's "we don't like the way your hair is cut" it still seems crazy to just take a pass with no other info. If they told him, maybe he'd be able to prove legitimately that they'd made a mistake. They could be passing up the best business partner that they've ever partnered with. It seems crazy to me.
     
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  10. Kittyfoot

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    I have no dog in this hunt but it sounds to me like Landstar has at some point been sued over a "discrimination" issue after turning someone down and adopted this policy to try and avoid a repeat.

    I know our company had to let a black O/O go after he had been video taped repeatedly stealing fuel and other driver's personal items from several company trucks. Of course he played the race card as he always did with everyone.

    Seems everyone has a "you fired me because I'm -----" issue these days.
     
  11. hrdman2luv

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    For me, it's simple. I'm not going to sit in some truck stop when I'm not sleepy. It's wasting time and money. If I can get an extra trip in that week, that's extra money for me and my needs (mortgage, kids, insurance, etc etc) Which leaves money for more enjoyable things in life, like a vacation, taking the family out, a boat, nice vehicle or what ever.

    I drive to make money. And the more money I make, the better my life is financially. And we all know, money makes the world go around.

    But sitting when I'm wide awake, is just something I'm not going to do.

    I'm no super trucker. That's just they way I've always been. Somedays, like you, I can drive for 24 hours. Somedays, I need a nap after 5 hours. Every day and every person's different. We're all usually different ourselves on a daily basis.

    My problem with these steering wheel holders is, that they condemn me for being the way I am. For loving liberty and independence. And I condemn them for pushing the idea that the government makes the roads safer. For supporting things that would keep me from making the kind of living I can make. For supporting "one size fits all" government regulations.
     
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