Landstar and rates for independent carriers

freightwipper · Sep 25, 2014

Skate-Board said: ↑

Could be but most of the time it's because the broker isn't moving the loads because they are too greedy. I have a friend who is a broker. She moves 12 loads a day from this one shipper going to the same place. Instead of trying to make a killing she makes $50 off each load. She now has them all covered every single day 7 days a week by the same guys. She does pretty much does nothing and everyone is happy
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i need to turn my truck in and have her job!

Derailed · Sep 26, 2014

I had a pretty good run over the summer dealing with a Landstar agent. She was paying a good rate and then I started seeing the same loads with Universal Am Can and the rates went to crap.

Common Sense · Sep 26, 2014

Landstar brokers double broker a lot of loads too. Beware!

Derailed · Sep 26, 2014

Common Sense said: ↑

Landstar brokers double broker a lot of loads too. Beware![/QUOTE

I think that could be said for a lot of them
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Skate-Board · Sep 26, 2014

hawkjr said: ↑

You gotta a agency code?? I could tell you off top if they're a real agency or a home agent?
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Took me an hour to find it. The agency is LRGR TRN

Skate-Board · Sep 26, 2014

Pahrump said: ↑

Most likely the Landstar agent is taking a bigger cut,,
When a Landstar agents loads a Landstar truck he gets 7% of 98% of gross revenue from the load as commission,when he brokers the load he get 50% of the difference between the revenue and what he agrees to be paid to the broker truck

For example Widget Inc ships a load and pays Landstar $1,000 the agent gets $68.60 the Landstar truck gets $735.
Now if the agent brokers the load he can pay what ever the broker truck will agree to,,if he brokers it for $600, then the agent gets $190 commisision,,
General rule of thumb with most agents is broker loads pay 80% OF 98% of the revenue,,more pay to the broker truck than the landstar truck,
I had a couple agents always paid me 85 to 90% no dickering,,and then some who always offered on 50% of the revenue

I had an agents pass word to their load board for a few years,,
Their board for their drivers always shows the gross revenue,(have to do this to keep agents from cheating landstar drivers)
Know how much landstar was getting on the load I was always able to get a better deal,,Agent hated it when they offered me $3000 and I would tell them I knew they were getting $8000,,,the most dishonest agents of all companies and brokers I dealt with were Landstar agents,,had a few good honest ones but most were no good,,
Watch the load boards many landstar agents get their loads off load boards,,try to find the broker they get the loads from and many times you can get more than they were offering the loads to landstar for,,Landstar is not a good company,
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Excellent post!

rollin coal · Sep 26, 2014

Agency code is important info. Most are bad. A few are good. First thing I look for or inquire about on any potential LS load, what is the agency code? Some of the really bad ones are outright shysters. Have a short list of agency codes I will work with and a bunch of double brokered cheap freight hawking codes that couldn't book my truck ever at any rate. On good terms and first name basis with a few LS agents. Overall I think it's a very good company to work with and have made a lot of money with them. Even though they do have a lot of bad apples.

platinum · Sep 26, 2014

Skate-Board said: ↑

Could be but most of the time it's because the broker isn't moving the loads because they are too greedy. I have a friend who is a broker. She moves 12 loads a day from this one shipper going to the same place. Instead of trying to make a killing she makes $50 off each load. She now has them all covered every single day 7 days a week by the same guys. She does pretty much does nothing and everyone is happy
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that is a smart women and thats how business should be done!!

Skate-Board · Sep 26, 2014

Had a Landstar load booked out of Denver going to Phoenix a few months ago. Got the rate conformation, signed and sent it back and was picking up in the morning. Went to bed early and when I woke up there was a new rate conformation for $50 less with no explanation. I was pissed. Got on the phone right away, booked another load, picked it up and was gone. Starting getting phone calls at noon from Landstar saying where are you and the customer is pissed. I said I booked another load because you just changed my rate with no explanation. She said the customer did that and now she's probably going to lose the account. I was like really! Your risked all this for $50. I had a rate agreement, you can't change this in the middle of the night and hung up.

I called the customer and told him what happened and he hit the ceiling. He said he did no such thing lowering the rate. I called the Landstar agent back and told her I just called her customer and told him what happened. She went freaking ballistic. It was awesome!

hawkjr · Sep 26, 2014

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Took me an hour to find it. The agency is LRGR TRN
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Yeah that's a multi office agency. A few offices outta Texas. It's unfortunate, but yeah, just gotta check & remember the agency codes. There's quite a few guys I won't haul for over here

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